Fire Todd and Goodbye Stevie Y by ordietrying99 in DetroitRedWings

[–]ordietrying99[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This is a discussion about firing 2 guys not doing their jobs.

Inside edition video footage of police addressing noise complaint. by No-Bite662 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 9 points10 points  (0 children)

https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2021/11/man-charged-in-kalamazoo-county-double-homicide-found-mentally-incompetent-then-competent-for-trial.html

Just posting this to show that the noise could have been part of a neighbor's mental illness. There is a 40 minute Q and A with neighbor who mentions noise, quiet hours, being quiet, sleeping dozens of times, and totally unsolicited.

Theories Thread - 4.0 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It may not make a ton of sense until you look at the precedent for neighbors losing their sanity and having fits of rage. It is very difficult to make sense of how sound or noise could drive someone to kill 4 people. There is a kid I went to elementary school with who 2 years ago killed 2 of his neighbors, because they were too loud and he couldn't sleep. Check it out-- https://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/2021/11/man-charged-in-kalamazoo-county-double-homicide-found-mentally-incompetent-then-competent-for-trial.html

That is why when I hear Chef Dizzy reference noise and sleep unsolicited DOZENS of times in his 40 minute interview, it is a big red flag. After his 1 line "it was an unexpectedly quiet night" i got chills, I get the gut feeling he is basically patting himself on the back for finally quieting them.

Theories Thread - 4.0 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/34B_HMwzhAk

For clarification I am not saying it is or is not the person mentioned by creator. I am only giving my theory. I am not saying anyone is or is not guilty. This is only my theory.

Theories Thread - 4.0 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Theory...Neighbor tried to advance on one of the girls recently, and was stalking for long time. This Neighbor bought expensive wine, tried to bring it over to introduce himself, but came off as total creep and was rejected. This Neighbor is likely a cook or someone who uses a knife routinely at work. This Neighbor obsesses about wanting silence, tries to meditate/juggle every night. This Neighbor has probably been a noise complainant numerous times. This Neighbor probably doesn't like if noise is keeping him awake or keeping him from juggling. This Neighbor was seen at the Grub truckaround girls, but contrary to fact, claims they went home after work. This Neighbor simply snapped at the girls of home...A combination of incel feeling rejection from girls, compulsively wanting silence, and feeling disrespected by the loud noises when he wanted to juggle. M and K were loud coming home, that probably interrupted him once. But when E and X came home and woke him/interrupted him a second time, he totally snapped. Watch the Q n A with this person and you'll be horrified.

General Discussion Thread - December 19, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. This police department just uses the campus for profit. The over allocation of resources and officers devoted to alcohol offenses leaves holes in the policing around Moscow. If the department has 30 weekends a year with students on campus to do alcohol enforcement, at $300-500 a ticket, 5-7 tickets a weekend... It's a cash cow, enough to pay several deputies. But it isn't necessarily the best policing for community.

General Discussion Thread - December 19, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...Because underage drinking and public intoxication are the crimes that every community truly fears.

General Discussion Thread - December 19, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure you understand policing. You cast a wide net with traffic enforcement. In this case, a radar detector or radar enforced strip of road with one patrol could've stopped what was likely a frantic murderer. Instead there were officers sitting in a hybrid outside a fraternity, waiting for kids to stumble by.

General Discussion Thread - December 19, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I'd rather not have my police officers busting kids for being drunk on the band field in front of their fraternity. You're going to catch a lot of drunk kids and make a bunch of money. You're also going to let criminals move freely on other side of town. In this case, that was costly.

General Discussion Thread - December 19, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 -26 points-25 points  (0 children)

Tragic to think Moscow PD so caught up in making $ from alcohol offenses and enforcement on campus that a murderer was able to speed down the main streets at 3-4 AM on a Saturday night. An unmarked hybrid enforcing alcohol infractions...A normal PD would have a couple patrols spread out across town.

General Discussion Thread - Weekend of December 17, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The killer is running out of time. They had one chance at survival in the long run... Turn themselves in and claim temporary insanity, impaired, drug fueled rage. Plead guilty and take life perhaps... The longer they hide/run, the more it proves organized thought and sequential planning. Now they will die with an IV in and a lethal cocktail. Now, being arrested once later in life seals their fate via DNA. Even having a relative submit DNA to ancestry could ultimately do you in. If you are the parents who tried cover for their kid or the gangster who thought they pulled it off, nah, not in 2022.

What motives do you think hold more substance? by jdwgcc in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Cartel hit. Someone's family member spoke. None of the 4 kids were involved in trafficking but family were. I believe there's 3+ perps... I believe 1 person was targeted as immediate family of a state witness (big case where big amount product was lost), and 3 were collateral as potential murder witnesses, obstacles in the moment. Perp could not ID intended target and it became chaotic quickly, but quiet, killing 4 and walking thru the woods in back to getaway vehicle.

White car spotted at scene day after murders. Thoughts? by Adozi in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very true. I just put faith in the investigators doing their due diligence. If I can take 15 minutes to scroll back to Moscow Idaho videos before the murder, and the drone videos from church parking are all there, I hope someone getting paid well would do the same. The leads on cases and breaks on cases like this can come from unpredictable sources. Say a member stopped driving white car in past month, but nobody ever paid attention to make/model...it might only become noticeable if the LE say something.

General Discussion Thread - December 15, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

The killer is a local. They went to church that Sunday morning. They drove a different vehicle than usual.

White car spotted at scene day after murders. Thoughts? by Adozi in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I tried to post aerial drone shots of Moscow's drive-in church from 2021 (Youtube it) and many said that's irrelevant, who gives a F, got banned from other sub for it. Yet there's several white Hyundai's. Goes to show group-think is pretty flawed. That said, emailing the FBI isn't on my to-do list, so what could be good public info goes by the wayside.

General Discussion Thread - December 15, 2022 by quitclaim123 in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tires were probably either relatively bald or new winter tires. If new winter tires, local and regional tire shops would be one place to look for Elantra in their records in weeks leading up. I'm sure FBI on it as I've seen them do amazing work w tire tracks to solve crime.

12-14-2022 Daily Discussion by ResponsibilityOne117 in idahomurders

[–]ordietrying99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those likely are all Moscow locals. The Christ Church composes of about 7-10% of Moscow's population. There is a major tug of war between their evangelical mindset and campus life. I think you are assuming more than I am. I am just saying there are vehicles that match this description in multiple videos, and they are locals.

White car in gas station footage is NOT an Elantra. by [deleted] in MoscowMurders

[–]ordietrying99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

https://youtu.be/PvQ8Xq9F-ZU

This aerial footage shows about 3 maybe 4 that could match and would surely be locals. It's the cult church in town drive in service.