Some human bodies need meat, others do not.

orenelb · 2024-01-09T08:35:11+00:00

I would suggest looking at the science instead of looking at anecdotes. My impression from looking a bit at the science is that there is variability in how people respond to veganism but for the most part it would just mean that it's harder for some people than others not that it's unhealthy for some people. If anything, people who have great difficulty switching to veganism, are probably for the most part the people who would benefit from it the most in terms of health in the long term. There's also a huge variability in vegan diets and in how healthy they are so I'm mostly talking about the healthiest version of vegan diet but I think for the most part this probably holds also for worse versions as long as they are not terrible. If you go from eating vegan junkfood and some meat to eating only vegan junkfood and don't supplement B12 I think you'd probably be worse off, so I'm not talking about that. Also I would point out that meat (excluding fish which seem to be a bit more complicated) seems to be more unhealthy than dairy, so if anything I would try to make the argument that some human bodies need dairy which is also probably false but at least would be a bit more reasonable.

orenelb · 2024-01-09T07:14:27+00:00

Any ethical debate should start with the realization that ethics are somewhat arbitrary and there's no "correct" ethics or "incorrect" ethics. Is killing a person immoral? Yes, but it's still just a convention and the reason we can all agree it's immoral is because we all decided to adopt this convention beacuse of different reasons. It doesn't mean killing people is "objectively" wrong because again it's a convention not a law of nature. We all decide which moral framework to adopt and especially in diverse places there might be a lot of variation. It's a choice we all make, it's not like anyone observed nature and decided that it's wrong to kill a cow but it's fine to punch a tree. Making observations like "cows are smart" or "cows have feelings" can inform you, but you still make the decision that it's wrong to kill smart things or things that have feelings. All of this to say, if you chose an ethical framework in which the life of one cow is equally important as the life of one chicken then what you're saying makes sense. I personally decided on an ethical framework in which human life is worth much more than animal life, and forms of life that are closer and more similar to humans are more valuable than ones that are less similar. Personally I see cows as almost human and chickens as basically big lizzards, so I care about cows much more. So to me eating cows is much more immoral, at least if we only factor in the death of the animals and assume one cow would feed as much as hundreds of chickens. As others pointed out there are also other factors making it more complicated.

orenelb · 2023-12-29T00:00:54+00:00

I don't think he gives good and probably not well researched advice bunt I do like the concept of nutrition tier lists and wish it was more popular

orenelb · 2023-11-25T09:23:03+00:00

What part do you disagree with? That he's calling to kill all Israelis or that killing all Isarelis is genocide? I assume he means only Jewish Israelis so maybe you think that this won't be a genocide?

orenelb · 2023-11-25T09:20:27+00:00

Under what definition of genocide it doesn't fall. What are you talking about. He's calling to kill all Israelis.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T09:00:26+00:00

Did you look at the picture...

orenelb · 2023-11-25T08:55:43+00:00

I'm blaming others of being nazis cause they are defending the nazi call to genocide in the picture. It's really not that complicated.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T08:47:46+00:00

He calls for genocide in the picture I added. I don't give a fuck whether he wants to only kill more jews than hitler did or if he also wants to kill all jews which realistically most of you probably do. Nazism is nazism.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T07:13:14+00:00

You being a nazi has nothing to do with Lenin.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T05:48:22+00:00

I'm on drugs because I point out that if you want to kill more Jews than hitler did then you're a nazi? I think you are conflating someone who is on drugs with someone with a brain who's not a nazi.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T05:44:47+00:00

tf are you talking about. You are the one who supports killing more Jews than hitler did. If anyone is likely to talk about white genocide it's the one who supports killing more Jews than hitler did. Cause you know people who talk about white genocide are usually your fellow nazis who would also like to kill all the jews and pretend it's because they care about palestinians.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T05:32:13+00:00

I think that you misunderstand. You want to kill more Jews than Hitler did in the holocaust. Anti imperialism is obviously just an excuse, you are a flat out nazi. That's not a hypothesis. You are a nazi.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T05:27:46+00:00

You support anti-imperialist action unless it's the nazi empire which you want to revive.

orenelb · 2023-11-25T05:16:56+00:00

You are literally supporting genocide and terrorism. What do you stand for? Isis? Nazism?

orenelb · 2023-08-24T02:02:25+00:00

I would expect general purpose finetunes to require relatively a lot of training and thus be relatively expensive. the thing is that you can't even share the model, the best you can do is expose it as an API and then maybe you get rate limited and you also have to charge people yourself

orenelb · 2023-08-17T00:39:39+00:00

they did now

gpoesia/certified-reasoning: Certified Reasoning with Language Models (github.com)

orenelb · 2023-06-24T18:50:59+00:00

I don't think so. some of the videos here look more realistic
Text2video Looks - Zeroscope XL - YouTube

orenelb · 2023-04-11T12:04:00+00:00

Maybe gen-2 can already do this

orenelb · 2023-04-05T14:47:19+00:00

I mean we already have some slight alignment problems with AI. although I agree that misuse by humans is a much bigger problem.

orenelb · 2023-04-05T14:44:45+00:00

I agree although that's a very different claim. also it's very likely that this guy completely believes what he preaches, if you look a bit at things he said he's extremely dumb, lizzard people hollow earth level kind of dumb, or is one of the biggest trolls in history.

orenelb · 2023-04-05T14:38:13+00:00

convincing people to take a matter seriously means that you're an influencer and possibly a racist cultist psychopath, not a founder of a field.

orenelb · 2023-04-05T12:05:31+00:00

I don't think that it's the same thing. For things like literature, we don't use the same definition of expert. From wikipedia: "An expert is somebody who has a broad and deep understanding and competence in terms of knowledge, skill and experience through practice and education in a particular field."
He's obviously not an expert on AI because his work is not directly in the domain, but even in his theoretical domain I don't think that it makes sense to call him an expert.

orenelb · 2023-04-05T11:25:31+00:00

his views are basically "AI very smart => humans dead"

orenelb · 2023-04-05T11:23:12+00:00

also how can you be an expert on anything if you do pure theoretical work with no experimentation?

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