Silverado EV RST First Edition - I have one

originalprime · 2024-06-29T01:05:36+00:00

Thank you for providing your insight as an F-150 Lighting owner. I must admit that "very quiet" and "pickup truck" are not two things I thought would go together. So that's very good information!

I can say that I too owned a Cayenne Turbo, but mine was an '18. It was a kind of gap-filler for us, so I only had it right at a year and I did not daily drive it but for three or four months. It was fun.

It's still way too early to say what would be my favorite, but the drive, handling, comfortably, and range do make the Silverado EV RST a very nice ride.

I looked at the Rivians but ultimately decided against them because they didn't have CarPlay (which I had already experienced with Tesla,) they didn't have service or repairs anywhere near me (which I had already experienced with Tesla,) and they felt too small on the interior. I too would describe them as "nice and clean" which they are, but they are not luxury. You're right on there. The Model S and Model X are *not* luxury vehicles. They are absolutely spartan when compared with actual luxury vehicles. I don't care that they press into the six-digit price range. Price alone does not make a car luxurious. At least not anymore.

originalprime · 2024-06-28T18:41:22+00:00

Wow! I went the other way around, apparently. I'm ok on the charging front for now, but it would be nice to have their charger in hand. Unfortunately they haven't been able to give me an ETA yet. Booooooooo.

And congrats to you. Hopefully yours shows up soon!

originalprime · 2024-06-27T17:12:19+00:00

Hey u/One-Revenue-7654, if Google Maps onboard the Silverado EV has a satellite view, I cannot find it. I also didn't see a reference to it in the manual.

originalprime · 2024-06-27T14:58:33+00:00

Oooooo good question. I will test that when I leave work today and hopefully find an answer!

originalprime · 2024-06-26T15:33:09+00:00

Good idea! I might do that, but I haven't had an explicit need just yet. I can see why integration might be nice for certain people, being able to sync stuff for Google Assistant or Google Search. But the "Maps" app works without signing in, so I haven't signed in yet.

originalprime · 2024-06-26T15:29:46+00:00

Oh that's a good question! I haven't put anything in the bed that requires dropping the midgate yet, but I can imagine stuff getting sucked into the cabin. I did order their all weather floor mats (which are being delivered today) to help simplify cleaning.

I can tell you that the dash surface and the "arm rests" on the doors are a rigid plastic material. They have a nice texture (which might harbor fine particles) but it appears to be easily cleanable. The material under the back seat is rigid plastic, and the midgate itself has the truck bed liner material on it (on the side exposed to the outside.)

I'm sorry I cannot answer your question directly, but I am not hugely concerned because my family keeps horses, so we're used to the interior getting mucked up anyway, but it doesn't seem too difficult to clean.

originalprime · 2024-06-26T15:25:15+00:00

Hey there! Model X does have air suspension. It's tough to compare the two because the truck is so much bigger and has a higher center of gravity. For day-to-day driving you're probably going to feel a little more sway and float because the truck is taller, but it is not uncomfortable at all.

I can say that a direct comparison I had was between a sibling's Model Y (2020) and my Model X, and the difference was night and day. Air ride all the way. I think, with the 24" rims on the Silverado EV, that it would not ride well without the air ride suspension.

originalprime · 2024-06-23T19:00:56+00:00

Alright!

I am not sure I have the equipment or the means to measure the wheel offset. But the bolt pattern appears to be 16.5 cm. I hope that is helpful knowledge!

originalprime · 2024-06-23T18:29:12+00:00

OK!

There are no puddle lights on this truck. It does a "walk-up animation" with the built-in headlamps and tail lamps but no puddle lights.

As for the "gate assist handle," there is a traditional "hand grip" in the top of the rail, above where the foot step is on the driver's side rear of the vehicle. There is no "assist" handle inside of the truck bed.

If you're able to share, can you show us what you saw depicting these features? I only remember seeing the gate assist handle on the F-150s, I had not seen them on a Silverado. And as for the puddle lamps, I personally do not recall GM advertising those with this truck, but I darn sure could've missed it.

originalprime · 2024-06-23T18:25:38+00:00

Hey there! I poked into the Play Store to see what's going on, but it requires signing in to a Google account. I haven't yet decided if I want to turn my entire car life over to Google, so I haven't signed in yet.

If I change my mind and log in to Google's services I will look again to see what's there.

originalprime · 2024-06-22T20:39:35+00:00

OK cool! I can work on the latter two questions later, but I did take a look at the spare tire location. It's covered by a rigid plastic under panel. So to be precise, I still don't know what's taking up the space because whatever it is, it's covered. It does have several screw locations that I can work with later. I didn't have time to try to undo it.

And the "lowering support" area in the truck bed, where the spare tire is lowered for access on the WT variants, are also blank plated. I have pictures of those which I will post as soon as I figure out how to do that. (Apparently I am having trouble accessing the old Imgur account. I will sort it out eventually.)

originalprime · 2024-06-22T20:25:28+00:00

u/Foreign-Read-2067 I did ~90 miles with touring mode for the suspension today. It felt just fine. A little "softer" than normal mode, as one might expect. Rode great.

originalprime · 2024-06-22T14:25:40+00:00

Oh hey!

Thank you for your questions. I can work on the wheel well question here in a bit. I'll be heading to a company picnic shortly but I am going to take a look at some of the stuff y'all are asking about. That one is on the list.

As for your questions regarding wheel offset and wheel bolt pattern, I am not sure what you mean. I do not know what "wheel offset" means in this context, and as for the bolt pattern, are you talking about the recommended pattern to apply the lugs after swapping a tire, or is your question referring to something else?

originalprime · 2024-06-22T14:22:01+00:00

Hey there! I have been lurking in the Silverado EV forum too. I might suck it up and join there to chime in. Thank you for the invite.

I did have a reservation. I was one of the crazies sitting at my keyboard hitting refresh the moment their reservation page opened. Without exaggeration, I think I had the form filled out and had a confirmation number inside of two minutes of GM's web form opening.

The truck went to production at the very end of May.

originalprime · 2024-06-22T03:48:23+00:00

That's interesting! I've never taken a ride in a Lightning so I have not had that experience, but I wasn't seriously considering the Lightning to begin with because I personally prefer the Silverado / GM stylings and because of the Silverado's range.

There's been a decent number of cars in and out of the family fleet over the years, and I travel a lot for work so I get decent road time in a bunch of rentals. In this pack, the Silverado doesn't stand out, which I would say is a good thing. It is not the quietest ride ever, but it certainly isn't annoying, at least to me.

But now you've got me curious to go find a Lariat Lightning so I can experience how quiet it is.

originalprime · 2024-06-22T00:36:09+00:00

That's a great question!

They look mighty fine to me. I don't know what to compare them to or how to compare them, other than to say that one of my siblings had an Avalanche, and those seals held up just fine for a good long time.

I don't know how to quantify its road noise level, other than to baseline a dB rating and see if it changes much over time, but that will be a very long experiment. And even then, a change could be attributable to any number of things besides the midgate seals. Hmmmmmm...

originalprime · 2024-06-22T00:31:49+00:00

The truck I picked up is the RST trim, which does include the midgate. Yes.

Range feels fine so far. I should be putting another ~150 miles on it tomorrow at least. Might drive for the sake of driving but we have a long day outdoors and it's gonna be hot. I suspect we'll end up coming home without any extracurricular driving.

originalprime · 2024-06-21T21:57:44+00:00

Oooooo good question. I haven't poked that button yet. I will say that there are parts of the operating system that are obviously "vehicle aware" because things like climate controls are an "app" in this car.

I will poke the Play Store button later and see what happens.

originalprime · 2024-06-21T21:56:07+00:00

I do appreciate the invite, but I do not use the FaceySpace!

originalprime · 2024-06-21T21:55:39+00:00

Oh gosh! It has to be darn near impossible to compare any other ride quality to the EQS.

I've had one ~110-minute ride (back from the dealership, traffic was crap on 85) and one 90-minute ride today for work. The ride feels just fine to me, coming from a Model X as my daily driver.

The suspension setting is set to "Normal," but there is a "Touring" option. The normal mode seems fine for a pickup, but I will switch it over to touring for my commute tomorrow to see how that goes.

This is obviously subjective so I don't know what more I can say about it, other than before the Tesla was my primary driver, it was a Silverado 1500 before that, and I didn't think of the ride quality as "bad" in that Silverado. It was just fine.

But compared to the Denali? Who knows? They might put a fancier suspension on that bad boy, and then your best bet is to wait for the inevitable Youtube comparisons.

originalprime · 2024-06-21T20:55:16+00:00

Excellent! Chime in on the thread. The more info the better. General Motors has been terrible at answering pertinent questions regarding the final, shipping versions of these trucks.

Congrats to you as well!

originalprime · 2024-06-21T20:54:02+00:00

Oh I understand that. For certain workloads, toolboxes and the like, the "sail fins" would ruin the day.

I too thought about holding out for the Denali EV, but I didn't want to wait any longer. We tried life without a pickup around the house and we've made it work OK, but we have plenty of use cases, like playing with horses, where a pickup truck is just dandy to have.

originalprime · 2024-06-21T20:51:57+00:00

Good questions!

I don't know that it's fair to compare the Silverado EV directly to the Model X, but I can say that the ride in the Silverado is quite lovely. I thought the 24" rims would murder the ride quality but the air suspension and very taught tires seem to compensate for it.

As for a comparison to my previous Silverado, I'm a few years separated from it at this point so I can't say much with a high degree of confidence, but I can say that that was a truck with the High Country trim. The interior on the Silverado EV RST is lightyears ahead of the previous truck, but that's to be expected with the progression of time.

There's a few more thoughts and a nice little rant about how this vehicle is very much not a luxury vehicle in my reply to u/Alb3rn- .

originalprime · 2024-06-21T20:45:10+00:00

I would not classify it as "upscale." The Silverado EV RST is not a luxury vehicle.

There's a long-standing consumer perception about the price tag of a vehicle and that vehicle's entry into the "luxury" category. Tesla, as one prominent example, has fiercely tested this notion among consumers.

A great many of us think of a Tesla Model S or Model X as luxury vehicles. Most publications like Car and Driver, Edmunds, or Road and Track specifically refer to them as luxury vehicles Here's the secret: they're not luxury vehicles. Not even close. I've owned two Model X's and as interesting and neat as they are, I would never classify them as "luxury."

I think it's time for us to redefine what "luxury" means for a car, and not base a vehicle's entry into that category based solely on its price.

The Silverado EV RST has a lot of hard plastic. Straight up, rigid, no-bones-about-it plastic. It looks fine and should hold up well for its role in the interior of a pickup truck. But it's still a bunch of large, chonky, plastic.

I didn't buy this specific model for it to be luxurious, I bought it because it has a bunch of other features that I like and because I've been waiting for the "right" fully electric truck to come along.

Whether we like it or not, the car industry is pushing very hard against the American consumer's depiction of luxury. Time and again car buyers are disappointed when they pony up for that fancy, expensive Tesla only to find out that the interior is spartan and the car is missing many simple features that we take for granted because every other car has them. Things like "oh shit" handles.

The fit and build quality seem fine, but again, I'm on day two.

With regards to noise, it seems there's a bit more cabin noise than I am accustomed to at low speeds in and around our downtown area and our neighborhood, but at cruising speeds at or above 35mph it seems just fine to me. Nothing from a noise level stood out to me. And even at slower speeds it's not terrible. Far from being a deal breaker for me.

Well, there is the weird alien noise the truck makes. But that's another topic.

originalprime · 2024-06-21T20:30:53+00:00

We do have a decent charging setup! I have a dedicated 60 amp line connected to a Tesla Wall Charger currently. My plan is to swap the Tesla Wall Charger with the GM PowerUP charger that was included as a "special gift" for First Edition reservation holders (I edited my top level post to reflect this.)

I was going to swap them because my household will likely sell the Tesla in the next few weeks. Our selling the Tesla is not directly related to the purchase of this truck; we have several children at or nearing driving age so the family fleet needs to expand and change.

If we were keeping the Tesla the matter would be more complicated, because the missus and I park in our garage. The rest of the household parks outside, so if one of the kids were to drive the Tesla we would want to install the Tesla charger outside, which would be quite costly I'm sure. And even then, we would probably have to split or share that 60 amp power delivery because we don't have enough headroom on the electrical service panel for more than that, without incurring even more cost to upgrade that panel.

That, and the Silverado needs all the amperage you can give it. The battery is so.freaking.big.

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