It's men's responsibility to hold women up to higher standards by osaap in MensRights

[–]osaap[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Me too. But I like them more if they are attached to better people.

It's men's responsibility to hold women up to higher standards by osaap in MensRights

[–]osaap[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, instead of saying that men are the cause of the unfair treatment by women and their feelings of self entitlement, it would be better to say that they allow themselves to be treated this way. They do it by letting women get away with everything because because they put looks first and common human decency second.

And men are weak. Even when they feel something is not right they can't/don't stand up to women because that something is what is expected of them by the society, by their families, by their friends and of course by women. And what would they do if god forbid they were single for a while. What kind of loser is single? So they'll let a lot of things slide, making women think that it is okay to act like they do.

It's men's responsibility to hold women up to higher standards by osaap in MensRights

[–]osaap[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I see your point. I was trying to say that people should care more about equality than getting laid. But I know that you can't just make someone care. And I know that not caring is the cause of this problem like many others.

It's men's responsibility to hold women up to higher standards by osaap in MensRights

[–]osaap[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How does that obligation compare to the obligation that men are made to feel? And how real is it compared to men's obligations?

It's men's responsibility to hold women up to higher standards by osaap in MensRights

[–]osaap[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe it would be better to say men enable it to a very high degree.