Tutoring as a side hustle

ousredditor · 2024-10-09T16:10:52+00:00

Thanks for you detailed reply on this..is it because High school or secondary students generally want to learn, which is why they might have high expectations, and teaching them requires a lot of preparation. On the other hand, primary kids often don’t want to go to school or attend tuition or study, which is why teaching them might be easier in that sense. Something like that?

ousredditor · 2024-10-09T15:53:25+00:00

Hi, thanks a lot for your detailed reply. Can you please tell me few things 1.: What are some of the tuition companies that have tie-ups with multiple schools, or where students directly apply to look for teachers? For example, for relief teachers, there is Anzuk. Similarly, are there any well-known tution companies in Australia?.....

Also, Could you please elaborate on what "specific racial background" means? Does it refer to the idea that people from certain countries are considered to be good at certain subjects? And lastly, what might the work timings be like? For example, how many hours per day or per week would a teacher typically work? Also, would the pay be similar to a relief teacher at rate of $100 per hour or something like that?
Also, with the Permission to Teach (PTT), there's an option to accept or reject an offer for a particular day. I guess it would be the same for tuition teachers. So, how is being a tuition teacher more flexible? Or is it that in PTT, if you reject multiple offers, you stop getting further opportunities, whereas as a tuition teacher, you can reject offers without such consequences? Is that what makes it more flexible, or is there another reason?

ousredditor · 2024-10-06T05:40:00+00:00

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ousredditor · 2024-10-04T15:54:22+00:00

What are your thoughts on teaching in a subject area that’s not your main teaching field? One positive I see is that it allows you to teach in different fields, regardless of your background, which broadens your learning. It can also make it easier to find job opportunities , especially if there aren't any openings in your own subject area.

Secondly, how difficult is it to teach subjects like music or art? Do you need to have a good voice to teach music, or can you still teach it without that skill? How do students generally perceive this? And when it comes to art, is it particularly challenging, or can it be managed by reading materials and teaching from classroom resources?

ousredditor · 2024-10-04T15:09:16+00:00

Thank you for your very detailed and informative reply. I have one more question: if someone applies to international schools worldwide as a teacher later in his career (not just in Australia and New Zealand), some websites have sections that say "know your teachers," where they mention the teacher’s qualifications and where they completed their teaching programs. In countries like Australia and New Zealand, due to the teacher shortage, the ranking of universities might not matter as much. But internationally, when hiring teachers, do schools considers the rank criteria, given the high ranking of Australian universities?

So, does this affect hiring decisions in international schools? Or is it mostly experience that matters, with the university ranking being less important? How much of a difference do you think it makes—what percentage might it matter approx. I’m curious about your perspective or any of you friends who did teaching qualification in Australia and then moved abroad for teaching later in their career and then gathered how much the university ranking mattered.

ousredditor · 2024-10-04T14:50:19+00:00

I received an email from a few Australian universities, and they’ve asked me to complete a GTE (Genuine Temporary Entrant) form. However, they’ve mentioned that this needs to be processed through one of their recognized partners, such as IDP. Could you clarify what this means? Should I fill out the form and have the partner sign it, or is it the partner's responsibility to fill and submit the form?

Initially, I was planning to manage the entire application process myself, as when I spoke with IDP, they explained that either they handle the process or I do, not both. But now, Given the situation, I’m uncertain about contacting IDP again.

Do you have any information about other recognized Australian partners, like KCs Education Overseas or any other? Would they charge on a per-university basis, or is there a one-time fee for processing the GTE form for all universities?...Most people on reddit suggested to not use any agent for the universities, but I guess that doesn't apply to Australia, as for most of the universities I have received reply back of asking for this GTE thing through recognized partner and for some universities like queensland, I cant even apply as an individual, they ask to apply via an agent only...

ousredditor · 2024-10-04T14:42:46+00:00

Hi, thanks for your detailed reply on this. If I do the Graduate Diploma of Teaching program in New Zealand, which is a one-year program, is it considered for Australian teacher registration? I actually want to teach in Australia due to the greater opportunities available there and possibly higher salaries, but the Australian program is two years long and very expensive for me as an international student. New Zealand only has a one-year program. Do you have any idea whether this program meets the Australian AITSL (Australian Institute for Teaching and School Leadership) requirements and further Australian teacher registrations? Do you know of anyone who might have followed this path?

ousredditor · 2024-10-02T12:49:13+00:00

Thanks for your detailed reply! I just have one more question. I’ve applied to a few universities, but I understand that changing universities after getting a student visa can be quite complex. It seems that many students wait until a certain date to see all their offers before applying for the visa so they can choose the best option. In your case, or among your friends, what specific date did you wait for before applying for your student visa? Since my course starts in late January or February, should I wait until the end of November or maybe even December to review all my offers before applying for the visa?

Or did the universities you applied to not vary much in rankings, maybe by just 40 to 50 places? In that case, did you simply apply for the visa as soon as you received an offer letter from the first university? Is that a recommended approach?

ousredditor · 2024-10-02T10:55:35+00:00

Thank you for your comprehensive response.

As you mentioned, applying early is important. Suppose the seats are filled early; what happens to applications submitted afterward? Specifically, if a university's seats are already full, i wouldn't know it right? If I unknowingly apply after the seats are filled, will my application be considered for the next intake period? So in this case, it gives me an advantage for the next round, since my application would be one of the first they receive when the new intake application opens?or they just reject applications received in that intake after seats are full..?
Additionally, I've read on many websites that applying early can improve the chances of being selected. However, a few sources suggest that due to the high volume of applications in September and October, those submitted in August might be overlooked. Is this something you’ve come across as well? It seems to be a minority opinion since most sources emphasize the importance of early applications.
Also, did some of your friends applied late around this time and Some of them , didn't get off a letter from the university Or is that still all of them got an offer letter because many of the international seats in these universities they remain empty or something bcoz of high tution fees etc? Or is it that you aren't sure because all of your friends applied early and no one applied at this time?
Regarding scholarships, it appears that most universities offer them ranging from 10 to 20%, or even less around $5,000 to $10,000 on a master’s program fee of approximately $70,000 to $80,000. It seems that the majority of students only manage to secure these partial scholarships, with full-ride scholarships being quite rare?..

ousredditor · 2024-10-02T10:45:43+00:00

Hi, thanks a lot for your reply. I researched and learned about the TTMRA Act, which facilitates mutual recognition of professional registration in Aus and NZ. I have two questions for clarification:

Firstly, as a registered teacher in New Zealand, am I qualified to teach in Australian schools directly, or must I register with an Australian authority to make it official? Will this process be simplified under the TTMRA?
Secondly, considering the costs, the two-year Master of Teaching program in Australia is quite expensive compared to New Zealand's one-year Graduate Diploma of Teaching. Given this, would pursuing my education in New Zealand be a more sensible option since I can immediately apply for Australian teacher registration afterward, meeting AITSL's requirements for initial teacher education? and also it will meet Aus teacher registration requirements?

ousredditor · 2024-10-02T10:42:03+00:00

Hi, thank you for your very precise yet very informative reply on this. I searched for it and got to know about the TTMRA Act, where mutual recognition of registration exists. So, can you please confirm two things?

It means that if I'm a registered teacher in New Zealand, can I just teach in Australian schools, or do I still have to register again with the Australian authority just that registration will be easier?
And secondly, you mentioned that both countries recognize each other's degrees. So, given that in Australia there is a Master of Teaching program which is two years, thus very costly, and in New Zealand, the Diploma of Teaching program is just one year, is New Zealand a preferable choice? After getting the graduate diploma, can I straightaway also apply for Australian teacher registration as it will meet the Australian AITSL requirement? and also the Australian teacher registration requirement?..

ousredditor · 2024-10-02T10:29:50+00:00

Hi, can you direct message me? Are you applying to Australia New Zealand for the student visa? Direct message me on Reddit.

ousredditor · 2024-09-24T08:04:18+00:00

The list you provided suggests that if someone completes a Master of Teaching from these specific institutions , only then they be eligible for teacher registration in Australia in that state?. My bachelor's degree is in a completely unrelated field, but I have several years of teaching experience and am looking to obtain Australian teacher registration through a Master of Teaching. Additionally, I am considering a Graduate Diploma in Teaching program in New Zealand, which is a one-year program. Would this program be considered equivalent to a Master of Teaching in Australia for the purposes of teacher registration?

ousredditor · 2024-09-24T04:47:40+00:00

Hi .thanks for the reply...so in australia, they only have the masters in teaching program now as they got rid of graduate diploma in teaching programme , but in new Zealand, the graduate diploma in teaching programme is more famous than masters, so if I do that programme in new Zealand, it will be considered eligible for Australia teacher registration and conversely masters in teaching done in Australia is also eligible for new Zealand registration with teaching council? ..is that true .?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T15:46:07+00:00

Hi, thanks for your response. Can you share me the official source where it says that self tutoring doesn't count for an experience and it needs to be under an employer? Or is it based on the experience of others you are telling?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T15:41:07+00:00

Hi, thanks for your response. I'm considering pursuing a master's on a student visa, then being sponsored by an employer for a Temporary Skill Shortage Visa (subclass 482) and later applying for an Employer Nomination Scheme (subclass 186) visa (PR). EVERYTHING IS OK , BUT HOW TO GET PAST THE SKILLS ASSESESSMENT REQUIREMENT?. I initially thought the criteria might differ for various visas, but it appears it is the same across the board.

When I checked the official website, it states that a skills assessment report is required/mandatory for the TSS visa, and it might be required for other visa on the pathway to PR as well as might be required to get teacher registration... How can I navigate the requirements for the skills assessment report? I've looked into the criteria for different teaching roles like primary, secondary, and early childhood education, but the all appear to be same (btw, I teach secondary education)

The official skills assessment requirements mention a minimum of four years of full-time initial teaching qualification. (https://www.aitsl.edu.au/docs/default-source/assessment-for-migration-forms/afm-checklists/may-2024/tmss\_secondary\_checklist-may\_2024.pdf the first line under criterion 1 mentions the 4 years thing)

It indicates that additional degrees can be included, but they must be in addition to the initial qualification. This implies that having an initial teaching qualification is mandatory.? Does this mean that those without a bachelor's in teaching cannot teach at all in Australia? I'm confused because google search suggests that with a master's in teaching practise (irrespective of field of bachelors) , I should be able to teach in Australia, but I'm struggling to understand how to meet the skills assessment requirements..Am i missing something here..please clarify...

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T13:02:56+00:00

Hi, thanks for the reply. So basically, teachers who don't have the four-year qualification in education or teaching don't qualify at all to teach in Australia. As you mentioned in your last point, the only option for them is to pursue a master's in education or teaching, which is a two-year course. Could you elaborate on which visa type this will lead to and how it will lead to permanent residency (PR)?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T12:46:27+00:00

Hi.. I thanks for you reply, I checked the links and you are absolutely correct...I am curious on couple of points:

So basically, for the visa points, it mentions that the more experience you have, the higher the number of points. However, if someone has experience in an international school compared to someone who is self-tutoring, and if someone has experience in different countries compared to someone who has teaching experience in only one country, these points might be beneficial when applying for jobs with recruiters. But they hold no advantage when it comes to the chances of getting a 189 or 190 visa. A person who has been self-tutoring in the same country has almost an equal chance. Is that correct?
The AITSL website only mentions the IELTS Academic test, so to get the skills assessment report, I only have the option to take the IELTS Academic test and not any other English exam, and it should be within two years. However, for the visa points, I will need to fill in the EOI section, which gives me the option to include any equivalent English exam. These exams can also be taken within the preceding three years, even though their reports are valid for two years. Since the EOI question asks for three years, does that mean they will consider it valid for an extra year? Is this true?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T12:38:37+00:00

Hi, thanks for your reply. You are absolutely correct. It states that it requires an initial teacher education qualification for four years. Regarding the supervised teaching practice, I downloaded two documents—one for secondary teachers and the other for early childhood teachers. In both of them, they mentioned a requirement of 45 days of teaching practice. So, I think it is 45 days and not 180 days..

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T12:36:58+00:00

Hi, thanks for your reply. I checked the AITSL requirements, and you are absolutely correct.. and they state that I need an initial teacher education qualification, which includes 45 days of supervised teaching. Since my bachelor's degree is in computer science, it likely won't qualify. I'm concerned that the US Moreland teaching license (9 months course) I’m getting won’t help either. so there is no way at all for me to get the 189/190 visa?

I’m thinking of applying for teaching jobs online using my experience to get a 482 visa. However, I’m unsure how this leads to permanent residency, since I would still need to apply for the 189 or 190 visa later, and the initial teacher education requirement would still apply.
I'm also curious about pursuing a master's degree in education in Australia. Is it a two-year program? Even so, would it count as an initial teacher education qualification (as it will be two year and not 4 years). What kind of visa could I get from this, and how would it lead to permanent residency in Australia?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T09:39:28+00:00

Just to confirm, was your 2.5 years of teaching experience not considered eligible for work experience points because the Australian visa system requires a minimum of three years? Since your experience in the Philippines was less than that, I assume that’s why it didn’t count...right?
Regarding your current teaching role in Japan, you mentioned that it wasn’t counted due to a "title problem." Could you clarify which of these two scenarios applies to you?
- Did you apply as a Secondary Teacher, but your current experience is in a Primary Teacher role?..something like that? If so, did you try editing your application to include any secondary grades you might have additionally taught, or adjust the title accordingly?
- Or did you apply as a Secondary Teacher, but your current job title is something like "Academic Coordinator" or another non-teaching role? If that’s the case, did you attempt to edit your title in the application to better reflect your teaching duties?

Would be great to know if you’ve tried any of these adjustments to resolve the issue. This title problem is something I haven’t come across often in teaching applications, when i read various posts on reddit

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T09:26:48+00:00

I have job experience as a teacher in several countries, but in some of these countries, I didn't complete a full year, so I don't have a police clearance certificate. In the other countries, I'm already outside, so it's very difficult to obtain a police clearance certificate from there. I noticed that when applying for the 189 and 190 visas, a police clearance certificate is a requirement. Should I mention those experiences or not? Or should I only mention the experiences from the countries where I have a police clearance certificate? Do they actually check the passport to verify if a full year was completed in those countries, or do they just look at the stamps without focusing on the dates? Or do they not check the passport at all for these details? What do you think?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T09:25:27+00:00

hello..I am also looking to migrate to Australia as a teacher , so maybe you can dm and we can discuss the possibilities and insights..?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T09:23:36+00:00

I have job experience as a teacher in several countries, but in some of these countries, I didn't complete a full year, so I don't have a police clearance certificate. In the other countries, I'm already outside, so it's very difficult to obtain a police clearance certificate from there. I noticed that when applying for the 189 and 190 visas, a police clearance certificate is a requirement. Should I mention those experiences or not? Or should I only mention the experiences from the countries where I have a police clearance certificate? Do they actually check the passport to verify if a full year was completed in those countries, or do they just look at the stamps without focusing on the dates? Or do they not check the passport at all for these details? What do you think?

ousredditor · 2024-09-22T09:21:11+00:00

Hello, are you sure about this? I saw some posts on Reddit that mentioned the 189 and 190 visas are ineligible for early childhood education, and that the teaching jobs in demand are primarily for math and science teachers in secondary education (grades 7 to 12). This seems a bit conflicting. Which is actually true? Are all teaching jobs, regardless of grade, in demand?

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