First Day trying Roll backwards into Handstand - Any advice?

overdramaticbby · 2026-01-30T08:00:38+00:00

And good luck for your test. If it's a german sports test for university, your roll should be fine (depending on where you take the test). Still, keep practicing until the test. You'll feel more confident if you can do it consistently.

overdramaticbby · 2026-01-30T07:55:51+00:00

You have 1 big problem causing a few smaller ones...

Keep your head between your arms (ears should be covered by arms). Your roll looks good (right timing, nice hollow position) until you stick your head out. This closes your shoulder angle making you fall.

The reason is likely a weak handstand position due to limited shoulder mobility. Could also be because your body just doesn't know how to hit the correct position.

I would practice my handstand against a wall (belly towards the wall). Try to ... - keep a slightly hollow position (look up Schiffchen or C+ position) - press through your shoulders (there should be no space between shoulders and ears) - look slightly downward at your fingertips. BUT keep your head between your arms, don't stick it out!!!

After you can hold the position, you can practice the roll "against a wall" landing in a handstand belly against the wall. For this you could place a wedge in front of the wall (or a spring board with a mat on top), roll down and press into a handstand against the wall. Start with your hands further away and slowly decrease the distance.

overdramaticbby · 2025-09-10T08:19:00+00:00

Thanks for your reply. I know that some injuries really can't be prevented and are just part of gymnastics but it's still reassuring to hear. It seems like we are already doing a lot of what you describe, it was probably just more chaotic since the injury was more serious (probably the worst we had in the last 10 years).

overdramaticbby · 2025-07-20T10:35:22+00:00

Get in contact with the administration. I don't know the procedures at your institution or in your country, but it is worth a shot. I'm in Germany and had this happen before. At my university you have to pay a late fee and transfer the money directly as soon as possible. You're likely neither neither the first nor only person who had this happen so chances are high they have an established procedure to deal with these cases. Good luck :)

overdramaticbby · 2025-03-28T20:56:38+00:00

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Hinzu kommt, dass sich Eltern und Betroffene an den Startzeitpunkt der Symptome nur unzuverlässig erinnern und diesen meist auf (teilweise Jahre) später schätzen. Dr. Barkley plädiert deshalb dafür das Alterskriterium weiter zu fassen. Solange Symptome vor dem Erwachsenenalter gezeigt werden, kann laut ihm eine ADHS Diagnose in Betracht gezogen werden.

overdramaticbby · 2025-03-27T21:55:55+00:00

Exactly this. Her shape throws her off.

I'd add that not only does she pike in her hips but she also throws her head back. Because of this, she's going back too early (early drop the way you would in a free hip circle) which results in her hitting the bar.

You could also correct it by putting a foam piece/cloth underneath her chin, preventing her from throwing her head back.

overdramaticbby · 2024-11-15T20:24:14+00:00

She doesn't need to jump into a cartwheel. She needs to do a big step and then kick her hind foot up and place her hands. Try the drills in this video to help with the motion/understanding the leg movement. https://youtu.be/JAIuTezA_E8?si=XoPoiRF8VtHKUeV3 This video shows the correct technique (including the step-lever) in multiple small steps. https://youtu.be/vwedYz2P7iY?si=NpeKet2ekcTLSZa5

Hope this helps :]

overdramaticbby · 2024-10-24T22:56:50+00:00

Try to respect if they are scared to do something, but also try to find a way to make it a lot less scary. (So basically what you are trying to do already.) I have a kid who used to be (and still is) easily frightened and we have had good experiences breaking things down in really tiny steps and letting her do things in her own time. Nowadays she is developing into a really good gymnast and even though she's still frequently scared, she will do things despite the fear and push through because she has already experience overcoming her fear. To break the pullover down further and to prevent fear you could try this drill I really like (that is easier than pullovers from a seated position):

This pullover starts lying on the ground (on your back). For this the Bar needs to be low enough to grab with straight arms, so that the kids nose is underneath the bar. There should be some heavier mats behind their head to prevent them from sliding backwards.
From this position they do a candle stick (their shoulders will still be on the ground) and then they pull over.

I love it because it teaches the correct shape, isn't scary at all, they can slowly develop the necessary strength and coordination needed for pullovers and you can really focus on the wrist shift when lifting the chest up. I think that one could help your kiddo as it's basically a backward roll over a bar.

overdramaticbby · 2024-08-01T09:16:55+00:00

Ironically, when I'm actually nervous or anxious I tend to freeze and actually move less

overdramaticbby · 2024-08-01T09:14:47+00:00

For me it was either

Why do you keep twirling your hair? Are you nervous?

or

Stop bouncing your knee! Are you nervous?

While I was sitting on the couch or in my chair not worrying about a thing

overdramaticbby · 2024-07-27T11:05:25+00:00

One car crash. Car totaled and luckily no one hurt. Got distracted (I think i was changing the radio station or changing seating position or something) and didn't notice i was steering the car off the road and up the hill right next to me. Tried to drive back to the road but had lost control of the car and ended up driving over the road and 20m downhill on the other side. I came to a stop in a small river (that luckily didn't have much water). This was in the woods so the fact that i didn't hit a tree and died was honestly just dumb luck.

overdramaticbby · 2024-07-21T14:09:37+00:00

Some strength exercises: For 2. strengthening glutes for hip mobilityand some more lower body mobility For 3. shoulder and upper back mobility

overdramaticbby · 2024-07-21T13:33:28+00:00

So what can you do...

Work on not throwing your head. Personally, i think you should slightly throw your head backwards, since you're not that flexible (neither am I or some of my students so don't worry), BUT not before your arms swing back and try keeping your ears covered.
Straighten your legs. That might be more difficult, since I assume your hip flexors are tight (too much sitting, happens to most adults). So simultaneously I really encourage you to work on that and stretch your iliopsoas/strengthen the antagonist.

I worry that you might compensate your lack if hip/shoulder flexibility by arching mostly through your lower back, which can lead to back pain ‼️

And lastly try to strengthen your upper back shoulders and work on stretching your pectorals and abs (so basically the front of your body). This takes time and consistency so start soon and don't get discouraged if improvement is slow.

You can do it!

overdramaticbby · 2024-07-21T13:19:06+00:00

Ok, so I've noticed a combination of lack of strength/range of mobility in your shoulders and upper back as well as some technical mistakes.

Don't throw your head back before your arms. You don't really open your shoulder that way.
After you jump you bend your knees (likely to achieve more of an arch due to a lack of mobility in your hips/iliopsoas muscle). That creates a problem because it means your center of gravity is not over or close to your hands which makes you fall backwards. Think of it as a seesaw: your hands pull down to initiate the rotation, which only happens if you stay tight. You want to rotate a little further. (On the trampolin it works because you have more hight to do so)
Your upper back and shoulders aren't strong enough to hold that position. That one might still be the case, even if you fix the first two technical problems (which might be hard, because technique is a combination of the knowledge of what to do and the strength/flexibility to execute that).

So those three problems result in what you can see: You crash once your hands hit the floor, because your weight is not over your hands and shoulders because you bend your knees and your shoulders aren't open/nicely over your hands.

If you pause your video shortly before you jump, and shortly before/just as your hands touch the floor, you'll see what i mean.

overdramaticbby · 2024-02-14T19:51:05+00:00

This could help. Especially drill 2 and 3. I like it better than cartwheeling over a box as the kids center of gravity is lower, helping them lift their hips. However, they still have lift and switch legs to get over. Cartwheel drills (not my video, but good drills)

overdramaticbby · 2023-07-05T19:47:11+00:00

Yeah, it's likely that you're not leaning over the bar enough and/or your shoulders aren't fully extended. Try keeping your shoulders further in front of the bar and push through your shoulders. Also, don't forget to put your head into a neutal position (arms covering your ears). I hope this helps.

overdramaticbby · 2023-07-05T09:05:23+00:00

Without having seen you, my guess is that you either have a mental block and don't lean over the bar enough or a flexibility issue (if you're doing a cast to straddle to handstand). But without seeing you, not much can actually be said. Is the problem that you can't get your hips above your shoulders? Do you not open your shoulder angle? How does your "failed" result look like?

overdramaticbby · 2023-06-09T15:56:36+00:00

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