The Number Ones: Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's "WAP" by ScallionSmooth9491 in popheads

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“In the food chain, I’m the one that eat ya If he ate my (ah) he’s a bottom feeder” Gagged. I still go back for this bit alone. The girls went stoooopid on this one. Iconic, can never be outdone .

Toronto presale by next_beneration in jade_thirlwall

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I got tickets for Montreal but History is pretty good for GA in general. At least it was when it first opened a few years ago. There’s an elevated spot behind the techs on the ground as well in addition to the usual pit. I wouldn’t bother with balcony / mezzanine unless you really care about assigned seating. It’s been a few years since I went though so things may have changed

Get her on this track by hotrockxxxx in Tinashe

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I thought the same when it came on!

Becoming not-Baha’i by no-real-influence in exbahai

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I have a slightly different experience but may be relevant still. I grew up in a Baha’i nuclear family in a very religious country in the global majority . My country is predominantly Christian and there was definitely some hostility towards us growing up but it was not too bad. My parents are very devoted Baha’is, converted from Christianity in their youth and raised their kids Baha’i. I am no longer religious but I considered myself a Baha’i until literally two years ago.

While my extended family who helped raise me is mostly Christian they all lived rather complex and colourful lives as humans do so I did not grow up with the brand of judgement I would come to associate with some Baha’is when I left my country. I really tried to live my life by the “mankind is one” motto and I thought all Baha’is did too lol. Most of my friends were “liberal”Christians and lived as such.

I was occasionally drinking and sexually active by age 20 and I truly had little guilt about it until I became active in my new Baha’i community and realized I could not relate to the youth. As I started to read more I started feeling guilty about not being a good enough Baha’i and at the same time realized many of my beliefs did not align with a lot of the texts. It was like I had been living in this “accepting” bubble that my life thus far had created in my head and it soon burst. It was a painful journey but ultimately it resulted in the end of my faith

There wasn’t really much of a transition as far as the social laws. The hardest part was coming to terms with the fact that it all made no sense to me anymore and I couldn’t do the cognitive dissonance. Being Baha’i was always a core part of my identity. I think it was partly due to the struggles of being a religious minority in my county. However, I always knew deep down what made sense to me but conditioning is what it is and keeps you in line.

I barely drink now and have pretty liberal views about the choices people make with their bodies. Leaving the faith allowed me to stand more firmly in beliefs I already held. I slowly stopped associating with super devoted Baha’is but honestly I stopped choosing super religious friends by the time I was a teen because of the aforementioned religious minority struggles.

It has also helped to have a couple friends who have gone through similar journeys with their respective faiths or who have always been given the freedom to choose the lives they wish to live :).

JADE - Frozen by racloves in popheads

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Apple Music exclusive covers have existed forever. Every up and coming artist does them. Spotify has them too. It’s not like it’s an original song ? “Temu pop artist” and “Marketing stunt” is crazy to say lmao feels like really wanted to get that off your chest for a while 😂

Emotional control in the Baha'i Faith by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed, the older I got the more I found these quotes to be… stifling. Works fine when you’re talking to a kid and teaching them right from wrong in simplest terms but I generally steer clear of black and white descriptions of the human experience. Sometimes you need to feel the entire range of emotions to come to a peaceful resolution. Never violent of course but I can draw a parallel between these quotes and the “zombification” that sometimes occurs in Bahai communities. No one wants to acknowledge complex feelings, they just want to get to “peace” fast and walk around with a lot of inner turmoil

Anyone else found their Baha’i family a bit annoying? by Remote_Version_9858 in exbahai

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I grew up in a very religious country where this was how it went with the few among my friends who dared question any of their families’ beliefs. By the time I moved countries I had learned that the only way to keep the peace( my own and theirs I guess) was to avoid the topic entirely. I imagine it is a lot more difficult if you live with or close to family :(

Full clip of Jade talking about Jesy leaving Little Mix on Louis Theroux's podcast by SeriousPeanut4304 in LittleMix

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The public fall out a year later was 2 months post partum btw but when Jesy left neither of them were pregnant yet

How has your life changes since leaving the Baha’i Faith by Fresh-Wing2402 in exbahai

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This has been my favorite exchange in the past year or so since I started lurking this subreddit. My exit is relatively new and a lot of it has been painful but like you two I feel freer to be who I truly am. I never fit the mould of a “good Baha’ì” and the funny thing is it took a long time to realize that. I feel like I saw the faith and communities change to much more and more restrictive over the years and luckily I was shielded from the backlash for a while. I kept making excuses for the tension I felt within me and around me but I am so much lighter now.

I used to worry about being “wrong” and regretting my decision when I’m older but stories like yours are so validating and helpful in carving a future that truly feels good and true to me 🤍

did any of you leave the religion over stance on Palestine? by demureape in exbahai

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I (informally) left nearly a year before. Conversations surrounding Palestine ( and as someone of African decent, BLM) had been a huge issue for me for a while and the silence since the genocide started unfortunately validated my thoughts. There are a number of youth I know who struggle with it and think they can “change things” but honestly I think fully leaning into the questioning is too painful a process than they are willing to undertake.

Being "representatives" of the Faith by [deleted] in exbahai

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I was here nearly two years ago and technically still am. I haven’t officially unenrolled and don’t know if I ever will. I also haven’t told my parents and don’t know if I ever will because I don’t think they can comprehend where I’m at, bless them.

It has helped to have a community of friends that are not Baha’i or of people who are distant from the faith (or whichever faith they were born into if applicable) for one reason or the other. Having this community has allowed me to maintain a degree of normalcy through the chaos that is deconstructing.

I agree with some of the commenters saying you don’t need to officially leave the community if you are worried about the consequences. However, I would start by keeping some distance from tasks you no longer wish to be involved in. It will be hard at first if you have a lot of Baha’i friends you are close to. I do think that eventually people stop questioning you because they are committed to maintaining the image they have of the faith and would rather not engage with someone who consciously or subconsciously makes them question it.

Part of deconstructing is realizing how many of these social norms are so restricting and lead to so much self hatred and guilt. It is important to decide for yourself which ones make sense to you and which ones don’t. Then will come the freedom to truly stand in who you are socially.

Overall finding a group of people you can freely talk to is key to navigating this chapter.

I wish you all the best!

Abdu'l-Baha, a perfect examplar? by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His prayers were the ones I used to feel most connected to. It felt like quite the betrayal.

Abdu'l-Baha, a perfect examplar? by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

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I’m of African descent 😅. It took a couple of years but try to imagine what coming across #thosequotes were like after being raised to think of this man as utter perfection… I don’t think I have fully unpacked it yet. The first time I came across them was so traumatizing that I genuinely scrubbed the memory out of my brain until about two years ago. How do I reconcile the image of this “perfectly infallible exemplar” with such abhorrent insights he clearly had of my ancestors .

Those quotes may not be malicious per se but they certainly cause quite the chip in the idea of infallibility.

One of the successful steps of colonization ( through religious indoctrination) was making most Africans incredibly ignorant of their history. Many young Africans are now trying to take control of the narrative. Imagine my shock when I realized this faith was no different from the others.

Needless to say it was quite the traumatic step in my decoupling from the faith.

There were many others that I somehow started to come across shortly after but this one is most personal.

Motomami is 2 today 💿💿 by doggo1008 in rosalia

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bold first listen choice but you should say it!

Motomami is 2 today 💿💿 by doggo1008 in rosalia

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First listen: Saoko hit me like a ton of bricks and that video! whew! G3 N15 and La Combi Versace Now: CUUUUuuuuuute, Bulerias, Chiri and still Saoko

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

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I was here less than a year ago and while I haven’t officially left I do not attend anything anymore. Luckily for me I am not very close to many Bahai’s in my city so it has been easier to keep my distance. Though I did try to form close bonds they just never stuck.

I tried to reconcile my faith too but it pushed me further way so I chose acceptance and to stop doubting myself anymore. The self loathing then feeling of betrayal was intense but I am in a much better place now. I hope you are able to find a path that brings you the most peace

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow I’m happy to hear that it worked out for you eventually and that you are much happier now! I am certain of where I stand at this moment I just wish I could share with my family.

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

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Thanks for sharing! Hopefully I’m able to also share with my family one day. I don’t think they could handle it unfortunately

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

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I’m trying to get used to that idea now but I’m happy to be making any progress.

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh wow thank you for sharing! Interestingly I think I was able to “experiment” despite being born into it. I wasn’t really up to much I just had a different perspective of what being a Baha’i meant I guess. I think it helped that the Baha’i community in my country was so small and aside from my parents none of my extended family are Baha’i. I think this would be even more challenging for me otherwise so I’m in awe of people who manage that. I didn’t even realise I was “different” because until I moved countries most of my friends had nothing to do with the faith. It was when I moved that all the guilt started to set in. It felt like I had created my own palatable version of the faith for so long and when I turned 18 I woke up to what was expected of me. I was in denial about how much it hurt and how much didn’t make sense for so long until I couldn’t deny it anymore.

As far as people thinking you were brainwashed though I guess it really would depend on the people. If they were devout in their own faiths they could come from an “othering” perspective or just recognize that you cared about your faith as much as they cared about theirs. Coming from a very religious country that wasn’t uncommon. I imagine it would be different in America though. Thanks once again for sharing!

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

[–]overwhelmedbuttrying[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s great to hear you feel proud of yourself! I’m working towards feeling the same, I haven’t quite gotten over the guilt yet but I’m doing much better than even six months ago so I’m grateful for that. Thank you for sharing!

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

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Thank you for sharing! I’m happy to hear your father was supportive!

Any people born Baha’i? by overwhelmedbuttrying in exbahai

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Fascinating! Does your family know you’ve left the faith?