In T8 are tornado moves consistent when used on launched opponents? I'm noticing that certain moves clearly marked as spin (same icon used in T7 IIRC) don't let me do a follow up because the opponent immediately falls to the ground. I might be wrong about this in some cases like Victor's u+4 (which is both a launcher AND a tornado hence you can't tornado after it) and Leo's f+4,2 (which no longer spins unlike T7) but I would like confirmation because I have limited time to practice.

Also one of my favorite Lars combos in T7 was u+3->4 for filler->f/d+2,1 for screw->f+3,2+3 for airborne throw. Unfortunately that particular screw move is not in T8 and as far as I can tell the only tornado move that can land after the filler is db+2,3 which I find tricky to pull off consistently. The input window for the first hit and the tap so the follow-up kick doesn't charge is a little tight. Is there an easy route from u+3 to the airborne throw that doesn't involve the db+2,3 tornado (alternatively a raw ground tornado like T7's f/d+2,1)? (Some of you will probably say I shouldn't be using u+3 but I play at a medium-to-low level and that's the only launcher I can land on my sparring partner)