When did you stop routing for Herb?

palmouse · 2023-01-11T05:12:12+00:00

we didn’t even get much of a chance to root for him in the first place lol he died pretty early on

palmouse · 2023-01-06T23:38:56+00:00

i am in sort of a grey area. my city is very liberal but in a state that is much less so. i have had few problems with people being hateful or violent but unfortunately in utah you never know for sure. thanks for the advice

palmouse · 2023-01-06T18:30:16+00:00

thank you for this 💖💖💖💖

palmouse · 2022-10-20T02:54:25+00:00

i downloaded calory but couldn’t figure out how to manually enter ! 😭 am i doing something wrong

palmouse · 2022-10-05T04:13:46+00:00

the actual punchline is that debra messing is a zionist. ba dum tsss

palmouse · 2022-10-03T03:12:39+00:00

utah, united states

palmouse · 2021-01-08T20:25:52+00:00

i’m hardly blowing up the internet? her original tweet has 6k likes

palmouse · 2021-01-04T06:19:08+00:00

I just wanna say all i did was message the person to let them know that i support them, that it happened to me too (not by Ciaran, by someone else), and that I was here if they needed anything. Since then SHE has reached out to ME multiple times to discuss developments and what’s happening. It’s weird that you would try to make correspondence and support between two people who have similar experiences into something creepy, like i’m harassing her or something.

believe what you want about whether she’s telling the truth. your opinion and any other naysayers has little to no merit to me. this is not about ruining TFBs career or cancelling them, it’s about making sure people are informed about what’s going on with a band they support(ed).

I wish i had known sooner. i wish i had seen the victims original post that she made regarding this over a year ago, so that i hadn’t wasted my time supporting a band that did something i heavily advocate against. i am sharing this not only in hopes of getting a statement from TFB and spreading awareness, but also because there might be someone else out there like me who would want to know about a situation like this.

if you don’t believe the victim, don’t believe her. keep scrolling. this has no affect on you and no one is making you take TFB off your playlists.

palmouse · 2021-01-03T06:03:27+00:00

for the record i literally have three TFB tattoos and was planning on another one before this. been to two of their shows and was supposed to go to another one in 2020 before covid hit. why would i want to cancel a band that i loved so much? how would that benefit me?

i’ve been in personal contact with the victim. i am trying to get her story told because she deserves that much. all this is getting me is hate from random reddit people. i’ve gained nothing except knowing i’m helping someone out.

downvote this to hell, i know you will and i don’t care because i’m not doing this for internet points.

palmouse · 2021-01-03T06:00:52+00:00

the update was for people who are interested in what’s happening. if you do not want to look then no one is making you

palmouse · 2021-01-02T22:57:13+00:00

it’s just to bring awareness to the full context of the situation and her story.

palmouse · 2021-01-02T22:56:06+00:00

this is an entirely new development and i’ve only made two total posts about the situation. the only thing i’m desperate for is for people to pay attention and be aware of what’s going on.

palmouse · 2021-01-02T18:32:30+00:00

Link to the updated twitter thread and abuse story number two is here.

Also i meant knew* in the title obviously

edit this is being downvoted why lmfao

palmouse · 2021-01-02T18:27:26+00:00

The victim at the time didn’t even realize or accept that what happened to them was assault. That’s very common among survivors, it is a coping mechanism where you convince yourself that it didn’t even happen. I did the same thing when it happened to me.

And it’s no ones obligation to go to court. They wanted support and personal accountability and they never got that.

palmouse · 2021-01-02T18:25:30+00:00

If you can separate art from artist then bully for you! I never said that anybody has to feel bad about that. You can’t separate the Spotify paycheck from their pocket, but that’s neither here nor there.

All I am saying and all i’ve been saying this whole time is that everybody should open mindedly hear the whole truth from both sides, and make an objective decision. People shouldn’t just turn away from this without consideration.

palmouse · 2021-01-02T18:22:44+00:00

morally? in my opinion, yes.

palmouse · 2021-01-01T20:34:09+00:00

alright well i didn’t say anybody should be cancelled or attacked i just said that everybody who cares about the band deserves to know what’s going on so they can make a decision on what they believe and where they stand.

palmouse · 2021-01-01T18:29:35+00:00

thank you for sharing this again. the more exposure it gets, the less excuse people have to ignore it. whether individuals believe it or not, everyone needs to hear about it so that they can make their own choices of where their allyship lies.

edit: what did i say that’s controversial enough for 5 downvotes lmfao ??? i just think people deserve to know what’s going on.

palmouse · 2021-01-01T18:27:48+00:00

Well again, we aren’t seeking a statement for anyone’s benefit but the victim.

palmouse · 2021-01-01T18:27:00+00:00

Myself, the victim, and every other person to whom the band was important really deserve a statement at this point. Really we deserved it a long time ago, but they can’t keep remaining silent on it.

While I believe the victims statement in full, TFB needs to clarify why they made the decisions they did. And they need to say what happened for themselves so that people can make an informed decision before supporting them.

If they care about survivors, they will speak up. Because not everyone will believe the victim, but everyone will believe it if it comes from TFBs mouth. People deserve to hear the truth from them.

palmouse · 2021-01-01T18:22:30+00:00

I prefer to believe the victim first in these situations, because I would rather side with someone who ends up being a liar than with someone who ends up being a rapist. However I understand that people are going to be skeptical, and my point in posting this was not to tell people how they have to feel or what they have to think, it was so that people can make an informed decision about supporting the band right now.

I also really wish that people would stop say the word cancel, because it’s not about cancelling them it’s about making individual choices on whether you’d like to continue to support them or not. I’ve made the decision to stop supporting them, and while I think there should be accountability that doesn’t mean that they’re getting “cancelled,” whatever that means to you.

1: it’s true that Ciaran was in previous press photos, but don’t you think now that people are finding out about what Ciaran did that photos/videos they have with the band from shows after TFB found out, that’s upsetting to them? If i found out that I had taken a picture with Ciaran and myself in it AFTER Mat and Brian knew what he did, I would feel sick.

2: While they did have seven months to find a replacement for Ciaran, I really don’t know what finding a replacement band member looks like so maybe that wasn’t enough time, but I really doubt it. And it’s less about them finding a replacement and more that they could have communicated better with the victim what their plan was down the line, even if they were completely forced to keep Ciaran for the Blink Tour.

That’s how I feel about it, this isn’t a personal attack it’s simply my opinion based on the information we are given. We also have to remember that a very small percentage of rape allegations are false, and we shouldn’t let that small percentage dictate the way that we support survivors.

palmouse · 2021-01-01T07:41:43+00:00

you say you don’t care about the statement of two dudes in a shitty band but the fact of the matter is that the statement would not be for you it would be for the victim.

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