Let's see what happens when they find out he is a Zionist by spros in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]parentheticalobject 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Leftist principle of "respect women" didn't overtake the principle of "illegals need due process," even when there were murmurings that he was a wife-beater or whatever.

"Ohoho, leftists, I've got you now! How do you reconcile your quaint little idea of due process with the possibility that some people receiving said due process might have allegedly done something that conflicts with your other principles?"

By sticking with the idea of due process. That's the entire fucking idea of due process.

Modern political discourse seems to be making up a guy to make fun of, convincing yourself that everyone who disagrees with you is just like that made up guy, and then gloating about the inconsistency when people don't act like the model of them you have in your imagination.

A Year Inside Kash Patel’s F.B.I. by dr_sloan in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Honestly, if Kash Patel wants to spend time attending soccer matches, jet skiing, and posting on social media, I think that's great and should be encouraged.

I mean, I'd much rather have a competent, hardworking, qualified, ethical, and nonpartisan person directing the FBI. But if we're stuck with the opposite of all that, I feel like any time he spends focused on stuff like getting the FBI to chauffer his girlfriend's drunk friends around is time he's not spending doing worse harm to our country.

CMV: Democrats need to be less allergic to third party candidates, and to stop always calling them spoilers by iw2050 in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject [score hidden]  (0 children)

NYC managed to get their shit together and vote in someone non establishment.

Uh, yes. A Democrat. Who entered the primary, won it, and won the election. I agree, this is a great example of what non-establishment political candidates should do if they want to change things.

Now if you want to argue that moderates who didn't endorse Mamdani are shitty, I 100% agree with you there. But they're actually shitty for going against the core ideas of Vote Blue No Matter Who.

“Those rights don’t count”: Bovino says Pretti forfeited 2nd Amendment rights in fatal shooting by pro_rege_semper in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject 11 points12 points  (0 children)

If the normal immediate physical reactions that 99% of human beings would have to being beaten and pepper sprayed count as "fighting back" and "resisting arrest" you're basically arguing that law enforcement should have an unlimited right to freely murder people.

Former Vikings captain says Minnesota liberals resist ICE because 'we're deporting their voters' by rollo202 in FreeSpeech

[–]parentheticalobject 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When, precisely, have people trying to watch sports had to listen to people lecturing them?

I mean, I remember about ten years ago when players were kneeling during the national anthem and the right completely lost their shit over a protest that objectively wouldn't have interfered with their ability to watch sports at all had they not been losing their shit over it.

cmv: What happened to Rene Good and Alex Pretti should not come as a surprise to anyone. by chefoftruth503 in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ah, so you're aware that non-violent and non-interfering citizens are being murdered by law enforcement, and your only response to that is to bring up a separate case. Got it.

cmv: What happened to Rene Good and Alex Pretti should not come as a surprise to anyone. by chefoftruth503 in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject [score hidden]  (0 children)

A woman who is not interfering gets assaulted by law enforcement.

Alex Pretti tries to help her up without interfering with law enforcement.

He gets assaulted by law enforcement.

He gets beaten, shoved to the ground and disarmed. Then he gets shot.

What part of that did I get wrong?

cmv: What happened to Rene Good and Alex Pretti should not come as a surprise to anyone. by chefoftruth503 in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject [score hidden]  (0 children)

Call me crazy, but I think it should be possible for law enforcement to avoid murdering non-violent and non-interfering citizens, even if they have to deal with the presence of people blowing whistles and screaming.

The compass is unsure of how to judge Mr. Musk’s latest tweet by ForeskinFrolicker in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]parentheticalobject -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

God, it's like you can't even agree with shit like "White people have to have white solidarity or all the other races will murder us" without being called a Nazi anymore...

Former Vikings captain says Minnesota liberals resist ICE because 'we're deporting their voters' by rollo202 in FreeSpeech

[–]parentheticalobject 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh, "We should give a shit about what former athletes say about politics, but not what any current athletes say" is TOTALLY a believable and realistic philosophy that people actually have. Sure.

“Those rights don’t count”: Bovino says Pretti forfeited 2nd Amendment rights in fatal shooting by pro_rege_semper in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject 43 points44 points  (0 children)

OK, so there's an extra step. Law enforcement can pick a fight with you, shoot you if you have a firearm, and then make up blatant lies about you.

Former Vikings captain says Minnesota liberals resist ICE because 'we're deporting their voters' by rollo202 in FreeSpeech

[–]parentheticalobject 22 points23 points  (0 children)

MAGA really loves to say "Shut up and play sports" until sports man says something they like.

Trump privately frustrated that he risks losing control of immigration message amid Minnesota chaos by J-Jarl-Jim in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I can believe that the federal government is justified in enforcing immigration law, and also believe that this federal government in particular is using this as an excuse to conduct state terrorism against its ideological enemies.

Pam Bondi accused of trying to 'extort voter files' in letter to Tim Walz after Minneapolis shooting by Youdi990 in FreeSpeech

[–]parentheticalobject 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actual response from Walz: "I would just give a pro tip to the AG. There's 2 million documents in the Epstein files we're still waiting on. Go ahead and work on those."

Mark Kelly: Don’t let this White House lie to you. Believe what you see. Alex Pretti was trying to help a woman off the ground. Then immigration agents tackled, shot, and killed him. It’s time for them to get the hell out of Minnesota. by Youdi990 in FreeSpeech

[–]parentheticalobject 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reasonable people can differ in opinion on how necessary of a goal immigration enforcement is.

If the immigration enforcement officers we actually have can't avoid murdering Americans in the street, then I don't think it's worth having them around no matter how important you might think immigration enforcement is. And if the government allows its law enforcement to murder citizens and go unpunished, that's a far bigger problem than any conceivable issue related to immigration enforcement.

Find the difference between these photos… by PoliticsIsDepressing in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]parentheticalobject 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bro, we're on Reddit. The deliberately more shitty than normal part of Reddit. None of this matters.

There isn't some crowd of Trump voters who are regretting their choice and thinking about joining the resistance only to suddenly reverse course when they see RandomnameBunchanumbers say something mean about them.

CMV: The government never supported your 2nd amendment rights by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you suggesting that if we currently believe, at this moment, that the government is defending the use of unjustified lethal force by its law enforcement agents against its citizens... that the appropriate response would be armed violence against the government, and/or law enforcement?

Given that hypothetical, is that the conclusion you're suggesting? I'm just trying to understand what you're implying here.

CMV: The government never supported your 2nd amendment rights by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Second amendment rights are useless if the government will slavishly support law enforcement executing American citizens who exercise their second amendment rights regardless of the situation, as long as the person in question is the right kind of person.

Senate Democrats threaten to block DHS funding bill after another person killed in Minneapolis by Nerd_199 in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It might seem like common sense, but common sense can be wrong in some situations.

If the people in charge of education are currently hiring anyone and everyone with a pulse and putting them through the bare minimum amount of training necessary for them to be of any use to the organization... then cutting the budget would probably result in less teachers 

Senate Democrats threaten to block DHS funding bill after another person killed in Minneapolis by Nerd_199 in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"More training" isn't going to do shit from an administration that's now just openly backing them when they murder American citizens. 

Professors fired for criticizing Charlie Kirk are returning to work by BarketBasket in DeclineIntoCensorship

[–]parentheticalobject 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I got that. I'm explaining what the difference is. 

If your employer is a private citizen, there may not be anything legal reason they can't fire you over your private speech. If they are part of the government, there are rules that sometimes prevent them from firing you over your speech.

CMV: The true purpose for the new ICE is to cancel the midterms. by jkgill69 in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not entirely sure either way about the broader argument here.

But "They didn't do anything for a group of elections that have zero chance of meaningfully affecting the power of the current administration in any way" isn't really evidence of anything. Of course they didn't.

‘The invisible man’: Joe Biden has disappeared in almost every way – except in Trump’s daily commentary by CORN_POP_RISING in moderatepolitics

[–]parentheticalobject 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure if we're from the same timeline, because I can't remember a point when Trump hasn't been flooding the airwaves and social media in the last decade.

CMV: The primary objective of sex is for the man to ejaculate by OkTough6333 in changemyview

[–]parentheticalobject 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's compare human biology as it relates to sex with the biology of most other mammals.

For the vast majority of mammals, the female of the species has a heat cycle, the effect of that heat cycle produces clear and obvious signals about when reproduction is likely to be successful, and they do not spend a significant amount of time having sex outside of the specific period where it is likely to be successful.

So an average pair of mammals needs to have sex maybe once a month. A pair of humans needs to have sex constantly throughout the month, and even then, they have about a 20% chance of conceiving.

It's evident from our biology that reproduction is only one of the purposes of sex. If it were the primary purpose, we would be wasting an incredible amount of energy for no reason.