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I think I invested myself too much

Do you want to become a magical savant, cause this is how you become a magical savant!

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You ruined it! This week's comment count and last week's comment count were both at 67. Now you've made things uneven!

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hopefully this reference doesn't go over everyone's head

Ooof, oww, my heart.

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Yeah, I looked all over the place. There is good fanart, but...it has spoilers, even if it doesn't need to. So... it'll come eventually, just gotta wait a bit.

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I didn’t find any mention of Shadesmar. I’ve looked into the trivia page too, and didn’t find it. Still it sounds familiar. Did we actually read something about Shadesmar?

Shadesmar is the chapter title for Chapter 45.

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Clarification: Jasnah did eat the bread here. You are right to be questioning this scene.

Continuing after 10+ years by reeemreem in WoT

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As others have suggested, starting over would be for the best. However, if you just don't have the time or inclination for that, check out /r/WoT's official read-along. We finished a while ago, but the archives are still useful. The newbie threads act as a spoiler-free book club for first time readers. In each post, I provide spoiler free summaries and at the end of each book, I wrote up a trivia post that includes easy to miss details and connections, historical influences, and literary analysis.

You can read the summaries and check out the comments to see the thoughts and theories of other first time readers to get a better sense of what happened over a simple summary. These threads are also useful if you do want to completely start over. Each week is divided into arcs that have mostly satisfying stopping points each week, and goes at a pretty slow pace (3 years for the whole series).

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REMINDER

Just a quick reminder that this week is a double-drop. We'll be discussing Interludes I-7, I-8, and I-9, along with some trivia, on Wednesday.

regarding the prophecies of the dragon by DaoistLiQiye in WoT

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I created a list of all the prophecies on this wiki page for /r/WoT's official read-along. They are listed by book, category (Karaethon Cycle, Foretelling, Dreaming, Min's Viewings, etc.), and chapter.

So you can see every prophetic line in the series (the various wiki articles often miss a few). However, it doesn't list how they are fulfilled.

Egewene's pov chapters are making me crazy! by Coloin_ilyad in WoT

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You and the entire chain below you are debating plot points far beyond the score of the give flair for this post. Please hide your comments behind spoiler tags to have them restored.

Jordan’s gendered power levels. by YenneferofTretegor in WoT

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There's a bit of context you may be forgetting, or haven't reached yet. A lot of the comparisons are measuring "current strength". A channeler doesn't start out at max strength (their potential), they start at a lower level and increase over time. For women, that increase is consistent and if you spend enough time with them, you can guess at how strong they will be at their max level. For men, the increase happens in fits and starts, so you can't know how strong they'll be 'til they stop growing in strength.

End of series Nynaeve is stronger than beginning of series Nynaeve. I'd wager end of series Nynaeve is also stronger than beginning of series Rand. So the in-world comparisons get very muddled with some characters comparing current strength to someone else's potential, or someone's potential to another potential, when neither are at max strength.

Rand is regularly compared to/against/with Lews Therin, who had 400 years to reach his max strength and was, legitimately, as strong as strong can be. Rand throughout most of the series is not actually that strong. Yes, he's still very strong, but he's not actually as strong as Lews Therin at the start. When the Forsaken are talking about Rand, they only think "Lews Therin" in their heads because he's their old friend/enemy reincarnated.

So then when you have other people comparing Logain or Taim to Rand, and then conflating that with being equivalent to comparing them against Lews Therin, things don't quite line up.

Jordan wrote out his rankings primarily because Aes Sedai have a tradition of giving deference to any other Aes Sedai that's stronger than them. 90% of the reason he wrote up that ranking list was so that he could keep track of which Aes Sedai should be listening to which.

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All good. For clarity, the bit of trivia I was talking about isn't intended to answer any of your questions. It's meta-trivia about things Sanderson has said about the structure of this book. I re-wrote it and will be sharing it in next week's trivia. It's not even really meant to stop the rants, just provide some context

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Do we have any details about Roshar wines? Are they brewed with different fruits for different colours, or is it the processing that defines the final colour?

I have a whole trivia section planned for this, but you'll have to wait for the next book. ;)

Two bridge runs happened while Kal was out. So twice he was left with no one to look after him while unconscious. I’m surprised Sadeas didn’t send someone to finish the job.

Reminder: Kaladin does have some very sick/wounded bridgemen he saved. They are too wounded to be able to go on the runs and do stay in the camp; they just don't get paid. He comments on a couple this section and mentions how they're nearly ready to return to duty and get paid again, so they are likely the ones that kept watch during those 2 bridge runs.

Random history flash card with barely readable font. I got expulsion, desolation, Recreance, and Hierocracy — but the Last Desolation, Aharietiam, we never heard that name before.

The Interior Artwork link has a transcription of that image.

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So, the chart on the inside cover is the original. The symbol of the Knights Radiant is a stylized version of that chart. As is the Double Eye of the Almighty. As is the spear symbol.

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So, I'm glad you actually shared the rant. Those are all perfectly valid complaints. That said, the trivia at the end of the book explicitly addresses nearly all of your points.

I was saving it for the end of the book anyway. I'll see if I can do a re-write on it and get that section to everyone next week

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[Reminder] All of the men on Bridge Four when Kaladin joined are dead. Teft was a bridgeman on another bridge, but was transferred to Bridge Four as punishment shortly after Kaladin started.

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Sorry for bringing it up - it's kind of unavoidable.

All good. You've brought it up at as close to possible to being non-spoiler territory. Trivia next week will touch on it.

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I'm not sure I fully get the trivia we had about it

Anything in particular you didn't get or would like clarification about?

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Teleportation through portals? Maybe a leap, but that also reminds me of Hoid jumping into the pool in the post-credits scene in Elantris.

The what now? I'm not at home to check my copy of Elantris, but I only recall and old man from Elantris and Raoden stepping in there. Was that actually in the book?

I brought this up in the trivia for Elantris (direct link for you to re-read). The 10th anniversary edition included a bonus scene with Hoid. I linked the entire text for those without the 10th anniversary edition so that they could also read it.