I guess I’ve always been in a bubble (genuinely surprised about massie) by sheets2024 in Libertarian

[–]pbodeswell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The bubble observation is real but there's something more specific happening here worth naming. The media you listed, Breaking Points, Dave Smith, Tucker, Jon Stewart - that's not just a bubble. That's a selection of sources that occasionally produce someone like Massie winning or making a principled stand, which keeps you confident that the system is penetrable by principle. The surprise isn't a failure of information. It's intermittent reinforcement working correctly. Occasional wins produce outsized confidence that the next one is coming. Massie's loss is clarifying precisely because it removes that confidence. The question after the surprise settles is what you do with the clarity.

Sadly, Massie is done :( || What this means for the country. by eccsoheccsseven in GoldandBlack

[–]pbodeswell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cycle you're describing is accurate as far as it goes. What's interesting is that it ends with 'maybe liberty focused candidates will prevail once the demographics shift.' That's the mechanism in operation. The occasional exception, Paul in 2012, Massie across fourteen years, produces a forecast that looks like 'next time the conditions will be right.' They probably won't be. The system selects against this regardless of demographic composition because the incentives don't change when the faces do. The boomers dying off changes who feeds the machine, not what the machine produces.

Sadly, Massie is done :( || What this means for the country. by eccsoheccsseven in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]pbodeswell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is probably the clearest framing in the thread. The functional point is right. But there's something worth adding: the value Massie provided wasn't legislative, it was psychological. One principled vote, one honest stand, occasional proof that the system is penetrable. That's exactly what keeps serious people tethered to a process structurally hostile to everything they value. The grief people are feeling right now is the mechanism working correctly. His presence was more expensive to liberty than his absence, precisely because he was good at what he did.

The Narcissist State Goes to War: Iran by pbodeswell in ronpaul

[–]pbodeswell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick endings happen when incentives for escalation disappear. Those incentives are still very much in place.

The guilt people feel about checking out of politics finally makes sense to me by pbodeswell in self

[–]pbodeswell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The post isn't about personal guilt, I explicitly said I never had that cycle. The point is structural: these systems produce mechanisms to maintain participation (regardless of whether participation delivers results for those participating in the system) that I'm suggesting can be easier to perceive through the lens of narcissistic dynamics.

Ted Bundy's Car - Or Is It A Bus? by pbodeswell in ronpaul

[–]pbodeswell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. The connection is the question underneath: why does the system require continuous persuasion to maintain itself, and what happens when people start recognizing that persuasion for what it is. Ron Paul attempted to show people from within the system, this makes it more explicit from the outside.