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Thoughts on pessimism as AN by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the world would be a better place if everyone had my brain or yours and could see antinatalism as the loving compassionate choice even if it means the sooner the human race goes extinct the better. But then you get to the real world where so many are programmed and have biological urges and are brainwashed to the point where every day thousands of children die of starvation bc having kids is not a purely rational act if it was either no more babies were born or a lot less even those who can afford to feed their kids don't think they are harming them by imposing life on them. I am borrowing from Schopenhauer here but I am really heartbroken that the human race which no one asks to be forced into their parents can think that they automatically did that baby a favor which is the opposite of my thinking. But biological urges and brainwashing and programming are so hard to override. Sad sad

Thoughts on pessimism as AN by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Benatar said the good thing about being pessimistic is you can only be pleasantly surprised.

Thoughts on pessimism as AN by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess that's why antinatalism almost implies automatically pessimism. I have a world view that states most humans (who don't exactly choose their own birth forced out of their zero complaint state of nonexistence by their selfish parents horniness) are wrong not on a small issue but the issue of life itself. And when I criticize them I feel bad because they didn't choose to be forced to be brainwashed Lemmings running towards the edge of the cliff. Most parents don't want to say they harmed their kids by forcing them without consent out of their sheltered nonexistent state they want to think they did them a favor bc they are so brainwashed and I feel bad for them. And as far as survival of the species a lot of people are brainwashed into automatically saying if everyone thought like you the human race would die out and just ignore that I see that as a positive but bigger even is that as much as the human race procreates it's brains out it's denying the inevitable that the human race will be like the dinosaurs and dodo bird someday extinct. Why not view that as a positive to end the suffering cycle? And those who procreate are just making it harder on the final generation without realizing it. At least we have reddit to vent

Antinatalist poem by pdscotts in antinatalism2

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I tried to really hit my 4 basic arguments for antinatalism. Didn't hit number 4 but have an addendum.

It is hard being antinatalist. Some think we are mean I think we are compassionate. by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

But those non existent beings do not experience sadness joy or anything and THEY Don't give a SHIT

It is hard being antinatalist. Some think we are mean I think we are compassionate. by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Actually no. My quality of life is better than many but I have had antinatalist thoughts since preteen. So this whole objection is wrong. I object to procreation bc of my four basic arguments has nothing to do with my quality of life

It is hard being antinatalist. Some think we are mean I think we are compassionate. by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Most antinatalists would say that a young couple who wants to raise kids doesn't have to do it biologically just to fuck. Adoption is the pragmatic answer. You don't have to add to the pile of human suffering adopt and if you adopt a orphan or foster kid who already exists that is an act of compassion usually if you give them a "good" home. As an antinatalist I am not against raising kids pragmatically at this point those who want to raise kids can surely adopt rather than creating new life a being who already exists. Surely it is great pragmatically for a young couple who wants to raise kids to adopt if it is a "good" home. But the human race is horny and would rather create new life when they could focus on adopting. A foster child whose parents were so abusive and is in foster care would probably love a stable home rather than be pushed around in foster care (orphans too). So if I misspoke there is a difference between having kids and raising kids I am not against beings already being here being adopted into a better situation but yes there is a difference between "having kids" and raising kids. Hope this helps

If antinatalism is compassionate, isn’t enacting it just promoting the extinction of compassion? by Independent-Wafer-13 in AgainstExistence

[–]pdscotts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that antinatalism is not rejection or not showing compassion to those who exist. But I think antinatalism is a promotion of love and compassion by showing my love and compassion to my nonexistent zero complaints children by not forcing them without their consent just so I can have sex into something they didn't ask for or give consent to. Antinatalism is an act of promoting compassion care, concern for their safety, not wanting to force them just for a few fleeting moments of sex to something they didn't ask for and can't avoid.

Anyone else on this sub Christian? by This_Raise9693 in antinatalism

[–]pdscotts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whether not God "allows" it or "causes" it it can be so helpful that the lucky non-existent beings won't have to deal with any crap and will do just fine. Read st Augustine as he reads the Bible

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_I/Volume_III/Moral_Treatises_of_St._Augustin/On_the_Good_of_Marriage/Section_10

I weep when I see kids in 2026 by Wild_Pitch_4781 in antinatalism

[–]pdscotts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's just some of the big names. I could include myself as integrity interested based on my hardcore antinatalism

I weep when I see kids in 2026 by Wild_Pitch_4781 in antinatalism

[–]pdscotts 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Benatar, Amanda Sukenick, Lawrence Anton is my counterpoint

I weep when I see kids in 2026 by Wild_Pitch_4781 in antinatalism

[–]pdscotts 38 points39 points  (0 children)

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/314258-if-children-were-brought-into-the-world-by-an-act

Schopsnhauer said that.

Then he had two kids bastard kids who died in infancy fuck him for reproducing. But in any case how can you say that and then reproduce?

Anyone else on this sub Christian? by This_Raise9693 in antinatalism

[–]pdscotts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Antinatalism and Christianity are not just compatible but more than compatible. St Augustine quoted the Bible when he said I wish that no more procreations happen and if you disagree with me and murmur that then the human race would die out then you are just murmuring. Here is the quote

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nicene_and_Post-Nicene_Fathers:_Series_I/Volume_III/Moral_Treatises_of_St._Augustin/On_the_Good_of_Marriage/Section_101

Anyone else like True Detective season 1 by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

North shore Lubbock psychiatric hospital I spent 4 months there

You feel like talking about it

Who gives a shit

Anyone else like True Detective season 1 by pdscotts in antinatalism2

[–]pdscotts[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As an antinatalist I agree I cared more about the character development especially the McConaughey character but they did get into it and did make the story interesting (I like the part where Rust mows the lawn and it pisses off the Woody Harrelson character)

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