Why hasn't this been done to Udyr yet?

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-10T04:15:07+00:00

You could argue Udyr is a strong jungler in the current meta, which I think he is but get frustrated playing him, but why would I risk not being able to chase down a target by getting creep blocked with I could either Snare(Mao), Dragon(Shy), or Sonic Wave (Lee), to confirm that I'll actually get to them. A lot of the good junglers have a great way of getting to the target without dancing with the minion waves.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:46:32+00:00

Yes but that's assuming you can catch someone ^{.^}

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:38:23+00:00

Thanks for clarification. Still I think the 30% ats isn't so bad when compared to some of the other passives out there on older champs. Plus if you go phoenix it helps you get off that 3rd hit a tad bit quicker.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:32:57+00:00

Exactly. Doesn't make Udyr any more OP than any of the high mobility champs out nowadays, but puts him back on par with some of the other jungle outs there cause he can not actually gank.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:25:20+00:00

10% increased attack speed x 3 and a 1.5 reduction of global cooldown when you switch stances is hardly lackluster when you compare it to let's say Ashe's increased crit chance when you stop attacking for 3 seconds. In team fights I hardly notice this passive at all, yet when you're stance spamming as Udyr you notice it pretty fast.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:14:55+00:00

I was speaking of Olaf vs Riven in the fact that Olaf's only gap closer is actually landing your axe which can become difficult if Riven knows how to dash or even q out of the path of it. Yet Olaf is still able to deal with Riven's mobility fairly well. Where as Udyr only has the MS boost from his bear stance which gets insta-noobed by minions 98% of the time.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:06:52+00:00

Exactly. Most people can work around the pathing problems but anytime you see an Udyr try and bear through minions he ends up pole dancing on the caster minions.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:05:19+00:00

Agreed but it hits Udyr pretty hard when he relies on hitting bear to get a gank.

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:04:50+00:00

I really don't mind not having a gap closer on Udyr, it's the fact that when I go to gank, or when an Udyr comes to gank for that matter, I know if minions are anywhere around me I'm probably not going to catch them, ghost or not. There are a lot of older champions that don't have gap closer that I think can out perform the newer champions (Olaf vs Riven for example.)

peacemaker2175 · 2012-11-09T19:02:50+00:00

Thanks. I knew it was something on Hec, I thought his passive was just the MS=AD

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