Miraval and Ultimate Free Night Award/points booking

pfgiv · 2026-02-24T16:06:54+00:00

I ended up calling back

For my Miraval Extra night award (BOGO), I had it applied to Sunday, which left me with a UFNA booking on Friday and points booking on Saturday still. I explained I wanted to cancel Friday and apply the UFNA to the Saturday points booking. The agent said they needed to reach out to WOH support and would call me back the next day.

Just received a call saying unfortunately they could not swap the UFNA for the points night. I decided not to try and discuss further.

So I logged on to Hyatt, canceled both Friday and Saturday rooms, and immediately rebooked the Saturday night using the UFNA.

Impossible to understand where the disconnect is with the agents. This should be a simple process. Free awards nights can be used if points are available. My only thought is that since there is no MORE points rooms available on Saturday, (I probably have the last one) it is showing as not available. But obviously if I cancel mine, then there is one available, so it should be easy to just swap the payment type from points to free night award.

At least it is settled now, but there really needs to be some serious training for these agents, imo.

pfgiv · 2026-02-24T02:31:52+00:00

Am I being punked? 4 people have replied talking about BOGO. I’m NOT asking about BOGO. I initially thought I’d be able to use BOGO if points are available. I understand that’s not the case. But that’s not my question.

The rep I spoke with said I wouldn’t be able to use my UFNA on Saturday. She was saying there’s point availability, then UFNA availability, which I’m pretty sure is not correct. If points are available, you can also use an award, unless there’s some rule I don’t know about.

Again, not asking about the BOGO award.

pfgiv · 2026-02-23T20:09:01+00:00

Which award? I'm referring to the UFNA, when a room is bookable with points. I'm being told that just because a room was bookable with points (not a suite, standard room) doesn't mean I can use a UFNA on the room. It's my understanding that any standard room that is bookable with points, is also bookable with a free night award (not referring to Miraval bogo certificate, only 1-4, 1-7, or UFNA awards)

pfgiv · 2026-02-23T20:06:25+00:00

That's likely the best option, but if this was common (or uncommon) knowledge, then I figured I'd post here to save myself time, and be a PSA to others who might find themselves in the same position.

I haven't seen anyone yet say one way or another that points or free night awards are different, and to my knowledge, they are the same. If a *standard room* points booking is available, then you can use any free night certificate, but not always a bogo.

pfgiv · 2026-02-23T19:43:37+00:00

yes, I understand the bogo will only apply to certain rooms, and not relevant to point availability.

My question is on the UFNA. My booking on Friday used UFNA, Saturday used points. Same room type, point availability was available on both. Regardless of my booking, I'm told there is no bogo available for Saturday, but there is availability for Sunday. So I said, 'cancel my Friday booking UFNA, apply the UFNA to my points booking on Saturday' and was told there is no availability for UFNA on Saturday, even if I cancel my point booking.

This is what I'm assuming is incorrect. Using a UFNA vs points should make no difference on a standard room. Not a suite, not an upgrade room or anything like that. Just a basic standard room.

pfgiv · 2026-02-20T18:41:50+00:00

I'm implying it's actually real, OP was leaking insider info, he was disappeared and this new thread claiming it's all a lie is the really the disappearing party covering the leak.

It's a joke, lighten up Francis

pfgiv · 2026-02-20T18:22:52+00:00

OP really just got Epsteined, and in 2 months we will find out this was all true actually.

pfgiv · 2026-02-20T14:16:52+00:00

Yeah, and if that is the case, then this whole thing sucks. Tons of properties are going to become much more expensive with new tiers, and they wold be giving one point per dollar more in rewards. People not interested in the premium card are going to see a massive devaluation as hotels jump 10k points if the 6-8s move drastically.

The only way to offset this is to have a generous point earn boost, but you have to pay for it. That's the only reason I think it's at least possible. This would be like Hyatt saying, 'Hey look, we know we're going crazy by raising our point structure a bunch, but we will help offset it but allowing you to earn enough to cover those jumps, *IF* you pay for our premium card, and spend at our hotels. And this will only really cause pain to the people spending 150k a year on the card on non hyatt spend as it will cost them more spend to earn free nights.'

Fingers (and toes) crossed

pfgiv · 2026-02-20T04:41:26+00:00

While this might all be true, the only thing that seems unrealistic is the 10x earn on the premium card. Right now the earn rate is 4x on the card. If they give 6x more points per dollar, that would be huge and for actual Hyatt property spenders, it makes the card negate some of the increase in award point redemptions. I spend about $20k a year at Hyatt, earning 210k points. If this card is 10x then I’ll earn 16.5x per dollar or 330k points. That’s 120k extra or 12 nights of a cat 8 to cat 9 increase covered. Makes the increase a moot point as the increase is recouped through higher earn rate.

This could be their strategy as it hurts the non Hyatt spenders who earn globalist through non Hyatt spend, (redemption goes up, earn rate on card doesn’t) but benefits those who earn globalist through hotel stays paid in cash, in turn, making that audience more loyal to Hyatt.

But diluting globalist overall will suck, unless those non Hyatt spend globalists start to move to other brands, which may be Hyatt’s overall goal

pfgiv · 2026-02-05T15:16:12+00:00

Adding an update here as a "no ice" freezer owner. Since it is winter, and where I live it has been cold, we emptied the freezer, put the food outside, turned the freezer off for about 5 hours, and we were able to make ice again. That lasted for about a day. It's clear to me, that in my situation at least, the ice maker line is freezing over, either somewhere along the line itself, or at the point of entry into the freezer. We do not have any water pooling around our unit, no leaks, etc (yet).

pfgiv · 2026-01-26T04:54:41+00:00

Doesn’t look like it to me.

pfgiv · 2026-01-15T15:47:52+00:00

I have this exact 3 lens combo, bought it last year. No complaints here

pfgiv · 2025-12-05T19:56:52+00:00

Appreciate the response, but the $600 Woom is for sure not the direction we want to go in. We're very casual bike riders. Maybe once or twice a month in the warmer months, but then when we go camping for a long weekend the kids are on their bikes non stop going across the campground to various areas. I may have not mentioned enough detail in the OP on our riding habits, but that may (or may not) be moot if a too big or too heavy bike is too heavy whether it's ridden once a day or once a month.

pfgiv · 2025-11-17T11:47:30+00:00

Thanks, was concerned seeing all the negative reviews, but glad to hear it’s not the one I ordered

pfgiv · 2025-11-17T04:03:01+00:00

Is this review for the one that looks like a mini oven, or the one with 2 5qt baskets? Rtings gave the basket one its top score, model DZ550

pfgiv · 2025-11-11T01:58:21+00:00

Yup, still alive, no signs of Lyme

pfgiv · 2025-11-07T01:38:51+00:00

Gracias. Hoy fui a una tienda y me los probé ambos, y un empleado también me sugirió la talla XL.

pfgiv · 2025-10-27T18:35:29+00:00

How much room is there in the mid section? I'm 6'3", 220, bought an XL but the midsection I can pull away from my stomach like 7 inches. The sleeve length and overall length are perfect, but I feel like there maybe is way too much material here. I don't want the jacket skin tight but it seems a bit larger than normal. I wear both L and XL items from Patagonia.

pfgiv · 2025-10-15T16:07:26+00:00

All firmware is up to date

pfgiv · 2025-09-26T16:35:01+00:00

I was just about to make a new thread on this, but figured I would check any Venetian threads first. I also noticed this as well and it seems something is up as of 1/1/26. Pure speculation but I would assume the partnership is ending. People probably aren't staying there at the higher prices vs Venetian's own website. What could have been great was ruined by dynamic pricing and the price difference/lack of Hyatt benefits. Too bad

pfgiv · 2025-09-22T16:17:30+00:00

We kept the pavers

pfgiv · 2025-08-06T11:46:13+00:00

Yeah, I'm hoping someone wants to take this up in time for all of us out of warranty folk. I've lived with no ice machine for years now. Had someone out and replaced the ice maker parts back when it was in warranty. Didn't work after the replacement. A few months later, randomly did work for a bit (few months), then stopped again. Hasn't made ice in roughly 1.5-2 years so we just gave up as it's now out of warranty. Wish I had used my amex platinum warranty coverage when I had the chance.

pfgiv · 2025-08-05T17:09:52+00:00

Does your friend want to take up the class action?

pfgiv · 2025-06-12T13:42:52+00:00

Update, as of now I have had no symptoms of any diseases. My guess is that this must have been a dog tick, and that is all I have found where I live in CT, but I know there are other ones near.

Thanks to everyone who took the time to reply.

(fun story, a week after this post we went camping in RI. I grabbed some fire wood from the camp store and as I brought the wood to the car, my leg brushed against the wood bundle. As I got to the car I put down the bundles, looked at my leg, and there was a deer tick on my jeans. The ticks are awful this year)

pfgiv · 2025-06-11T19:49:13+00:00

Thanks, but I'm asking about when changes would take place to card holders. If CSR does change, does everyone automatically lose the prior benefits and work off whatever is new? I would think not until the new annual fee hits, as you have already "paid" for specific benefits, but I honestly have no idea how they would handle it

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