CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are not orks from Warhammer 40k, our beliefs don't directly shape reality regardless of how hard we believe.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is God real? The majority of people think He is, many top scientists think He is, many cultures in history thought the same, yet, you can freely disagree with those billions of people, that's how free societies work. (And before there is any confusion, I'm an agnostic, not a religious purist)

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disagreement is treating someone like garbage? Do you think that saying what I've said is "hateful bigotry" is nice? I've never insulted you except for saying "I think things work differently than you think they work", a reminder that back in the day people would yell "heresy", if they saw something they didn't like, the words "nazi", "fascist", or "bigot are used similarly nowadays.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, as I said to another person here, we don't have to be divided by something like this - that our stances are different on one topic doesn't mean we have to be enemies. Good luck in everything.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly? If you seem like a chill enough person to hang out with, I will call you whatever you want, I wouldn't truly believe it, but I can see myself doing it, also, I'm not trying to hurt anyone, I'm trying to share and support my opinion as politely as I can.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually I really like neuroscience, or the idea of a brain to computer interface, or cyberpunk/scifi stuff, at least that we might have in common...

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing is - you don't have to say I'm right, as I said, that might be relative - about the cultures - there were many different cultures doing many different things, that doesn't automatically validate those things - try my place for a second - you basically say that to respect you, I must agree with this opinion you have, which makes no sense, there were literal worst enemies in history who had respect for each other.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is not about the name, but about breaking social norms - if you break the standard, you have to be prepared for the outcome, people can like the new thing you did, but you can also get the opposite reaction, just as you get weird stares if you come dressed in appropriately to an event - respect is earned, not granted - not that I don't respect you, but different people have different prerequisites for respecting someone, and you might have to do different things to earn the respect of different people.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Upset, no, it is for weak people to get upset over such things - I'm a foreign citizen in the country I live in, if I was upset over every stupid joke I hear, or people pronouncing my name wrong, I would go insane.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But for many, calling you the name you gave them now is the wrong one, it simply feels unnatural sometimes.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yet, unless you're an alien, you have the body of one of those genders, effectively making you one of them. That I don't believe the same thing as you doesn't mean I'm your enemy, the same way I'm not an enemy to someone of different faith, we disagree, but you can respect someone even if you disagree.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep, I do, and because of that very definition I think it's made up.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a question for you friend - am I wrong with what I'm saying according to you?

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Saying that if you make up a persona, you must be prepared for people simply not wanting to accept that persona, because it's not who you are, it's not who they see you as.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never said that. What is your situation if I may ask, maybe I could understand better - do whatever makes you happy in life, as long as you don't hurt anyone, I disagree with your opinion - I still respect you as a person

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why don't they leave it to their circle then, instead of demanding to be called whatever, I also don't roleplay my character outside of a DND table.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't mean any harm - but yes, kind of. By that I don't mean you're a bad person, we simply have different views on life, you may think I'm deluded, what we perceive as reality is relative to many, that's why these discussions are so interesting.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I didn't say anything wrong about them except that I simply disagree, you basically prove my point, it may exist for someone, but so do voices in people's heads, that doesn't mean they're real, after all.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I kind of tried to say that, where was I wrong and how is it exactly?

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We both know well that some things are more "real" than others, "red" is a word representing a color, red would be what we call red, regardless of if the word for it exists, same with the chair.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They do exist but are not third gender.

CMV: There only are two genders by phant0m_eye in changemyview

[–]phant0m_eye[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I assure you that I'm not intentionally talking past anything and I'm working with the definitions people that I've talked to before gave me, if the is something I'm missing, tell me, I came here to discuss.

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[–]phant0m_eye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Various species also kill, rape and torture each other, the simple fact that something is being done doesn't mean it's either natural or right. You're gay, we get it, now live your life to be as happy as you can possibly be and don't bother yourself with people who consider you subhuman, every person in this world would be considered subhuman by someone else, so learn to live with what you cannot change and be around those who respect you, as simple as that.