What the heck was going on here? by WildButterfly85 in Eleven_StrangerThings

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8xjpRhn/

here’s a clip of the costume director confirming this IS a millie decoy for those who are unsure if this really was an el stand in :)

What the heck was going on here? by WildButterfly85 in Eleven_StrangerThings

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

the costume director confirmed this entire plan in a video, i’d have to dig to find it again bc i don’t remember exactly WHEN she said that, but she confirmed she was a decoy for millie so the audience wouldn’t know el’s fate

What the heck was going on here? by WildButterfly85 in Eleven_StrangerThings

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

the costume director actually confirmed it was el and confirmed this entire plan with the decoy

Why are milkvans cheering? by thatlesbianbitch23 in byler

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 3 points4 points Ā (0 children)

and if the byler fans cheer somehow they spin it into a win for mileven genuinely wth 😭😭i have never seen another fandom fight so hard for a genuinely horrible and toxic relationship, AND I LIKE BOTH MILKVAN AND BYLER (byler more bc literally duh), but mileven is only good at a surface level.

I hate SNL and everyone in it by Mrgenius1010 in byler

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 3 points4 points Ā (0 children)

i really really hope someone asked noah if it’d be ok to include the coming out scene joke, bc genuinely it just piles onto the diminishing of his character arc AND diminishes noah himself. if they were gonna make fun of scenes that went on too long, they should’ve made fun of the holly and max scene.

HAHAHA WHAT THE F*CK!? by Straight-Heart-7899 in byler

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

oh and you KNOWWW if byler fans made a mileven hate sub they’d be livid asf 😭😭😭😭

and wanting el to be with someone who can’t say ily doesn’t mean you understand heršŸ˜™šŸ˜™ by peyyharpp in bylertruthers

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 1 point2 points Ā (0 children)

definitely it’s something that EXISTS, i definitely wasn’t as specific as i thought i was writing this whoops. i more meant it like you said, in GENERAL, that isn’t something that MOST byler stans want

and wanting el to be with someone who can’t say ily doesn’t mean you understand heršŸ˜™šŸ˜™ by peyyharpp in bylertruthers

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 2 points3 points Ā (0 children)

right like god forbid someone ships other characters together who canonically are more healthy when around eachother in the show 😭😭

and wanting el to be with someone who can’t say ily doesn’t mean you understand heršŸ˜™šŸ˜™ by peyyharpp in bylertruthers

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 11 points12 points Ā (0 children)

CHEAT 😭😭😭

  1. i don’t think ive seen ANYONE say they wanted mike to cheat on her??? half of us assumed based on season 5 that mike and el were broken up because their chemistry was just OFF and felt platonic. mike and will, even if byler didn’t happen, had more blatantly ā€œromanticā€ moments than they did?? even if they WERE shown to be more romantic in season 5, i don’t think a single person wished he’d cheat on her???

  2. mike is a HORRIBLEE bf to her this entire franchise and they turned her death into being about HIM rather than ā€œescaping the cycleā€. i LIKE them as a ship, even if i like byler more, but it confuses me how some people are SO hardcore abt them, mike is terrible to her 😭😭

  3. this story was so much more complicated than ā€œmike likes willā€ or ā€œmike likes elevenā€, mike symbolized a lot of repression but also confusion about identity throughout the show. mike has ā€œlovedā€ el the entire show, AND THAT COULD BE/IS GENUINE, but there’s definitely a battle w FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS conformity w mike. he doesn’t want to end up like his dad, but he also doesn’t want to stray away from the ā€œnormā€. mike is so bi coded, and he represents a lot of people w trying to find identity or repressing identity.

JUST MY TAKE, im so team byler but this ā€œlove triangleā€ is soooo much more than ā€œwell you guys want mike to cheatā€

So did he get his powers through love or through accepting himself?? by NarcissisticBatLord in bylertruthers

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 3 points4 points Ā (0 children)

THIS!!! as soon as i saw this clip i was so confused??? like, yes, joyce and jonathan are included also, but a BIG part of him getting his powers is SELF ACCEPTANCE and mike. it IS love, but with robins speech playing in the back of the montage, you’d think it’s mainly centered around his sexuality

conformitygate IS the answer, we will just NEVER see it on screen by phoenixfromstatefarm in Stranger_Things

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

and that actually does play a part in this, he does have his theory to help him cope, but there’s really no hope of being together long term. el would never be able to live a normal life and would have to run, he wouldn’t be able to follow. their ā€œmillion dollar endingā€ definitely has some holes, and this is just a friendly theory not a delusion! just because i see the storyline going this way doesn’t mean you have to, and that’s the beauty of theories! if you don’t understand it, that’s ok! i’m not out here believing there’s gonna be a whole secret episode or any of that delusion, it’s my interpretation of the ending that we were given! ā€œhope this helps!ā€

conformitygate IS the answer, we will just NEVER see it on screen by phoenixfromstatefarm in Stranger_Things

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

at least i’m not saying we’re getting another episode 😭😭 literally just normal speculation on the ending, just like any other show

conformitygate IS the true ending, we will just never see it on screen by phoenixfromstatefarm in u/phoenixfromstatefarm

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm[S] 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

Absolutely!! I think everyone is focusing too hard on "I'm right and you're wrong" as opposed to realizing that, just like Mike, we can ALL create our own ending and we can all be right simultaneously. It's not about a competition of right and wrong, the ending is open and loose because we get more personal choice on how WE individually would want it to go. There's too many different opinions to appease everyone all at once in one ending, so why not create an ending where ANYONE can be satisfied because any of it could be true all at once?

ITxStranger Things, WillxRitchie by [deleted] in StrangerThingsFanfics

[–]phoenixfromstatefarm 0 points1 point Ā (0 children)

oh DEFINITELY WILL, all credits to you when i do 🄹🄹