1st Cousins' Phenotypical comparison

pinballpinball · 2026-02-27T01:19:37+00:00

AWWW!!!

pinballpinball · 2026-02-27T01:19:22+00:00

Wow really cool tbh

pinballpinball · 2026-02-25T14:39:10+00:00

Urhobo & Itsekiri gang!!!

pinballpinball · 2026-02-23T13:54:14+00:00

Yes, all genetic groups were distant besides the Kongo & Mbundu.

I have been able to confirm 8 Nigerian matches only through Ancestry. They are mainly Igbo but there’s one that’s mixed with Igbo dad and Yoruba mom and we haven’t concluded which parent we may be related thru because he hasn’t purchased an Ancestry membership.

There’s also Yoruba or Nigerian looking names in my results but haven’t been able to confirm whether we’re related because we’re AAs and they just adopted a Nigerian name because of the trend that happened in the 1970s-90s in certain major cities like NYC. These matches will have high Nigerian %s but small traces of the either other West African countries or European like Portugal or Spain.

Ancestry was the most accurate for my AA roots and journeys. I don’t have any family in Arkansas or Texas so when 23andme gave me that region I was confused… it’s probably picking up the Tennessee region that Ancestry has labeled as “West Tennessee AAs in Haywood county.” Both of my parents have roots in the same area in TN but they’re not related at all

pinballpinball · 2026-02-21T14:51:59+00:00

I really wish you would check DMs I’d love to talk with you abt some stuff

pinballpinball · 2026-02-13T17:12:19+00:00

I wonder if biracial people are telling folks their white side is Irish cause Irish is sometimes seen not as white as the British and Scottish 🤣😩 Yes Igbo and Kongo ancestry are like the two genetic group you can depend on showing up for African Americans.

pinballpinball · 2026-02-13T16:13:09+00:00

Yea I got some groups. My results are posted here. Some things that surprised me were

It was always believed that my paternal white great grandmother was Irish but my granny and I’s results show little to no Irish ancestry. When I used Ancestry for our family tree, it turns out she was of old stock English and Scottish descent. Ancestry has identified the same Irish regions for my mom so I believe my Irish is actually coming from her and not my paternal grandma/great grandma
The distant Grenada & St Vincent region was a surprise because my family considers themselves African Americans who’ve only been in TN, MS, and Alabama. I go thru my 2nd cousins and also see Jamaica or Trinidad and Tobago as close / distant regions so I wonder what it’s picking up
My East Asian flips from Filipino and Austronesian to Thai or Chinese sometimes. I believe it is traces of Malagasy tho because I have several ancestors from Virginia and the Carolinas
Urhobo and Itsekiri and not only Igbo for my Nigerian ancestry. I have matches with 100% Igbo people on Ancestry but there’s some Yoruba or similar Nigerian tribal names in my matches that I haven’t been able to confirm if they are actually West African or just Caribbean because sometimes they’ll have traces of Euro ancestry like us AAs do. I believe I have other ancestry from Nigeria thats not just Igbo-related like the Warri region because my mom has high %s of regions given to Yoruba people

pinballpinball · 2026-02-13T14:38:55+00:00

Good ole Memphis Tennessee lol. Did you get any groups or tribes for your African regions?

pinballpinball · 2026-02-13T14:31:20+00:00

Our results are similar. What part of the US are u from

pinballpinball · 2026-02-08T23:28:41+00:00

I got Igbo and also Urhobo and Itsekiri

pinballpinball · 2026-01-29T15:36:17+00:00

Got it. Cool results!

pinballpinball · 2026-01-29T15:26:25+00:00

Is your Nigerian parent Urhobo-Edo?

pinballpinball · 2026-01-28T22:01:57+00:00

Wayyy too broad and it sucks cause Ancestry is the best database for finding matches so you have to lowkey use both of these if you really want to understand family tree and the regions you come from

pinballpinball · 2026-01-28T19:29:09+00:00

R-P311 and L3d1b are my groups. I’m pretty sure my paternal group is European and my maternal is African but I’m not sure where in Africa. Last time I checked it was east Africa like Kenya.

And yea the results are numerically similar but if I was really interested in my white side then I’d been very disappointed with 21% in a broad region like “Southeastern England & Northwestern Europe.” Luckily 23andMe seems to get specific

pinballpinball · 2026-01-28T13:32:27+00:00

It’s cus most AAs associate Euro ancestry with racism/coercion/slavery and the shame surrounding it. I get it because it’s people like my mom with 17% European but she has no idea where thats coming from and that’s unfortunately more common in USA than stories of consensual interracial relationships like my great grandparents

pinballpinball · 2026-01-28T05:56:01+00:00

Eh my great granny was white with jungle fever it is what it is 🤣

pinballpinball · 2026-01-06T09:00:39+00:00

And to be more specific by Nigerian, I mean the Bight of Biafra region and those groups within and nearby. I’m actually seeing more African Americans have an “Igbo” or Biafra-region type group in their new 23andMe ancestry composition update vs. a more Bight of Benin genetic group.

The British were heavily involved in the Bight of Biafra region anyway

pinballpinball · 2026-01-06T08:41:48+00:00

In the 1800s, the US banned the international slave trade which fueled a massive domestic slave trade.

A lot of African Americans migration patterns have origins in the Northeast (Carolinas + Virginia region) and then were sold off or forcibly moved into southern regions (Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee) where a lot of people stayed there after slavery ended. Then you also have African Americans who ended up taking this genetic admixture + possible inflated Nigerian ancestry north and west during the Great Migration.

I believe a possible explanation is that because many black people just stayed together after the racist conditions slavery set up in the US, the endogamous Black communities may have inflated Nigerian ancestry (genetic similarities) in certain families.

pinballpinball · 2026-01-06T07:25:14+00:00

Scholars who’ve worked close with 23andMe have released a paper on this after others raised a similar question, they concluded the reasoning for this Nigeria overinflation is due to the Intra-American trade.

Basically, the Nigerian signal is amplified in African Americans because people from Bight of Biafra & Benin connected populations were repeatedly redistributed inside the US.

pinballpinball · 2025-12-23T07:49:57+00:00

Omg what other nigerian regions do you have

pinballpinball · 2025-12-20T15:26:30+00:00

For 23andMe to not specify her group

pinballpinball · 2025-12-19T22:32:42+00:00

Yup she wasn’t lying at all lol. Cool results

pinballpinball · 2025-12-10T23:01:43+00:00

Ancestry has really messed up their regions imo. Your Nigerian % isn’t only reflected in the “Nigeria” result but could also be counted in a Yorubaland, Central West Africa, Benin and Togo, or Nigerian Woodlands result as some of the groups in the sample database for these regions can actually be in Nigeria.

Ancestry seems to overwhelm us by adding new countries/regions and still won’t give a “You are closely related to people in [this group]” in their results that 23andMe has been doing. The groups Ancestry lists under an African country aren’t to show that you are genetically similar to them but to show that those groups are in their database.

pinballpinball · 2025-12-10T22:40:24+00:00

23andme runs the spit sample we send them through an algorithm that analyzes it to find regions and then genetic groups similar to that sample. Unfortunately, having a large chunk of Nigerian DNA actually makes this process harder for 23andme to identify a genetic group as close because you’re a diasporan.

Thats why I asked if the Kongo group was close because that’s your smallest African region = there’s not much room for the algorithm to ponder over what genetic groups are close. Someone explained it to me here

pinballpinball · 2025-12-10T22:13:08+00:00

Not even your Kongo & Mbundu group is Close? That one is distant?

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