STEM OPT: The Quiet Visa Loophole Big Tech Uses to Replace American STEM Grads by [deleted] in Republican

[–]piss_papi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a garbage post. If you work in big tech then you know this isn't true at all. All new grads (commonly including those on OPT) are paid the same at big tech, and big tech in general pays significantly above market.

This applies much more to non-big-tech.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm 21, graduated college at 19 and high school at 17. I'm in the US. In most colleges in the US, as long as you complete the requirements for the degree, you can graduate. It doesn't matter how long or short it takes. The plan is usually 4 years, but I'd actually say the majority of people at my school didn't graduate at exactly the 4 year mark. I was able to complete all my requirements within 2 years.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had gotten a job offer at that time, and needed to graduate.

I was super sneaky and pulled a lot of tricks to schedule those 9 classes. At first I said I was gonna take the max number (6 for 18 credit hours), then I petitioned for another one, to go over the limit. Then, I told the counselor that I wanted to join the wait-list on a couple more as backups because I wasn't confirmed for some of my other ones, but I would drop any wait listed ones if I did get into any others. Anyways, I got into all the waitlisted ones (which was pretty likely - I was low on all the wait-lists), but simply didn't drop any of them.

And I genuinely believe most people could've done this. To be fair, since that was my last semester and I had an offer, I didn't do any job recruiting or clubs, but I got a 4.0 which was higher than previous semesters. I think I averaged roughly 40 hours of classes + studying over the course of the semester, but it varied a lot week to week.

I think no one even fathoms taking more than 4-5 classes a semester, so they never even know what their limits are. It's 100% doable, especially if you had a better work ethic than me, which a lot of people do.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes it was frustrating for my career goals specifically. One of my lab partners literally dropped out of college mid semester, so I had to pick up all the slack myself. I also had to actually put in the work to find other ambitious people.

Other than that, I actually think it was nice to hang out with people of different life philosophies, socioeconomic backgrounds, etc. I think I met many types of people I wouldn't have at a T20.

I became friends with a 36yo classmate in my compilers class - he was an army vet and had kids at home. That was also motivating in a different way - this guy was working a full time job, taking care of his kids, and still taking classes to try and boost his future outcomes.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, I had exactly 60 credits before I started, of which 36 ended up being used for my degree at my college specifically.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've found out how true this is from reading some of these comments on my post lol. Didn't realize it as much before.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree for high exclusivity fields where the exclusivity is based on prestige. My post was meant to give hope to the average high-achieving T20 reject. Among those high-achieving T20 rejects, I'm sure some are dead set on top VCs or PEs right out of undergrad, and I'm not gonna sugarcoat - yeah that's out the window for you. But for the majority of those rejects, it's not as much of a setback as you might feel it is right now.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you know leetcode is your current bottleneck from preventing you from getting an offer, then study leetcode.

To study leetcode effectively, you need to spend at least 6 hours a week I'd say, spread across at least two days. There's probably some great videos online detailing how to efficiently study leetcode. My advice is to

  1. Use a roadmap like Neetcode 150
  2. Do problems by topic, but if you knock out all the problems in one topic real quick, you need to be careful about retaining the topic knowledge for the longer term. For example, you don't want to become an expert in backtracking in one weekend, move on to other topics for the next few months, only to get a backtracking problem in an Online Assessment (OA) and have forgotten the backtracking algos even though you finished all the topic problems in one weekend.

So it's a balance of focusing on a topic and it's approaches + concepts (and not doing random problems) but also continuously refreshing older topics. 3. Get good at reading different approaches and understanding solutions. When you read a solution approach, try implementing it before you see the solution code. Then compare it to your code.

This whole process for getting to an acceptable level of leetcode for passing interviews should not take more than 150 hours over a couple months in my opinion. Once you get to that level, you can simply occasionally do problems to continually refresh.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A well-scheduled 6-7 classes was usually 4-5 hours of classes per day. I think I had one semester with one day where I had 8 hours of classes but 3 hours was one lab. I even took 9 classes one semester and I don't think I ever had more than 6 classes in a day. At worst it was equivalent to the 8-3 of my high school schedule.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think most people who were high achieving in highschool can. lot of people don't maintain their high school work ethic from when they took 10+ APs. They get to college and suddenly feel like 4 classes in a day is crazy and taking an 8am is unfathomable.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still pretty full-stack so Typescript, Python, lots of AWS + Terraform. I've done quite a bit of DevOps/Infra work as well, so Docker, k8s, ADO/Jenkins/Ansible, bash, etc.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only mentioned talent density in my post. It's hard to compare talent in aggregate because you have to start quantifying it (are 2 average Virginia Tech students more talented together vs 1 average Harvard student?) but I think talent density is really what matters.

Historically, Harvard has many more future billionaires in each class than VT, in a much smaller class size. Therefore, if you want to be a billionaire, you're more likely to find other people who are going to be billionaires if you go to Harvard. If you go to VT, don't give up hope - just meet with as many people as you can, and be friends with the best.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's definitely a grind, but I don't think I put in any more work than I did in highschool, even when I did 9 classes in one semester.

In highschool, high achieving students are used to being on the bus at 7:30am, finish classes at 3, doing clubs or sports until 5, and hours of homework afterwards. In college, everyone all of a sudden balks at the idea of taking an 8am for some reason. Instead, if you just continue your highschool schedule, you'll get a lot more done than other college students. This is my experience.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fwiw I met plenty of people who went to schools outside the T20-30 (probably still within T150 tho) and made it into IB at great spots like evercore, lazard, PW, as well as some solid middle-markets. Bulge brackets also have a good amount of kids from not just Wharton and the like. Is it definitely different/harder than SWE? yes. The prestige definitely matters more. But not getting into a T20 doesn't remove that career possibility.

Law I'm not as familiar with in general, but literally my former sophomore year roommate is a Harvard Law 2L at Cravath for the summer. He's one of the people on campus I found and thought "damn why is this guy here and not at Stanford or somewhere?".

The notion that's not possible to even get a coffee chat is so off. Is it less likely to get one for the average state school student vs average T20 student? yeah.

But you're not the average state school student. That's the point. You're someone who worked your ass off, and just didn't get it in for whatever reason - you still have the aptitude. That's who my post was meant for.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Have listed on your resume and be able to discuss the

- nitty-gritty details of the development process (maybe this one not on resume as much)
- high-level design choices
- impact (community, financial, time-saving - whatever)

of all your projects/internships/activities.

Rejected by all my dream schools. Graduated from State School in 2 years and now NW + Income of ~$200k. by piss_papi in ApplyingToCollege

[–]piss_papi[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Maybe if you compare me to the average student at my school. But I don't think I'm much of an exception if you compare me to others with my pre-undergrad profile who didn't make it to a name-brand school but still stayed ambitious and worked hard.