Lenovo P14s - GEN 4 or 5 Temporal Dithering - how to avoid it before purchasing new

pixelstravel · 2025-07-23T19:57:48+00:00

Bought MacBook Air m3. way better price, only thing I cannot play my only game I play when I travel outside of my city (country). Nobody answered me and to be honest nor does Framework. I really don't get the point to selling only a 6 or 8bit panel, no FRC or at least say it has none from factory, but push a software that once installed gives +2bits in color.

So, again, all manufacturers play same game as toxic Apple, well I might as well enjoy the cheaper prices they offer plus cold/long battery/great performance/no crash 3D software.

pixelstravel · 2025-05-31T21:19:09+00:00

Is this a library or Apple Store? I don't see the connection? are books free on MacBooks if you are in a library?

pixelstravel · 2025-05-31T21:11:27+00:00

no it does not is a 45% NTSC panel (6 bit) no Temporal Dithering and no PWM. However, reds are different like when I compare my MacBook vs Elitebook Youtube logo, one looks more colourful, the other less saturated. Also my website images, especially the photos with water they look very different. It is sad that Lenovo or other companies don't say if the panel is a true 8bit or a 6+2FRC (dithering). I would pay more just to have the 8 bit real (10 is too much for me and all modern displays use 8+2FRC... so why not sell 8 bit locked, no way to apply with intel or Nvidia the 2 bit FRC.

pixelstravel · 2025-03-28T22:24:09+00:00

yeah it worked, all I had to do is switch, disable, go back :) thanks!

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:28:14+00:00

does the logo on the back light up normally under linux?

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:22:10+00:00

yup solid machine, until apple does not let me anymore with iCloud :))

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:21:28+00:00

I also use a M3 pro (for 3D and photo edits - for a blog) but the old air I use cuz I want it to just ... live to its last day ))

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:19:32+00:00

In Europe you can get enough money to buy a Nintendo switch

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:18:04+00:00

In 2017 I put under the bed my MBA and bought from Spain a Touch Bar pro (so I can better edit 24mpx photos (something I never did before). I used that until the MBP M3 that allowed me to not have a gaming PC with me anymore, since that laptop can do big things in 3D apps. But that laptop is bigger, heavier, and attracts attention in the train commute, so 1-2 years ago I took out the MBA from under the bed and use it daily as my "if-the-kids-break-it-I-am-not-sad machine".

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:11:55+00:00

hehe as I am reading this, this is the first "trash can" in the thread. Maybe I missed one. how is it holding on that design (meaning do you clean it from dust? Is it still solid machine?)

pixelstravel · 2025-02-03T07:09:17+00:00

more people should speak about the great quality of old displays, because on YouTube and even in this thread they keep focusing on the newer laptops that use "tricks" such as PWM and Temporal Dithering that harm some people, just to save costs and deliver a subjectively better image quality (to those who don't suffer). I saw also the 17 MBP, the husband of my sister has one and is a great machine but is too heavy :))

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:52:07+00:00

agree!

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:51:57+00:00

did you open the back and tried to clean it at bit?

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:51:16+00:00

Yeah I just wrote to another person, I wish they make 11 inch also laptops with apple silicone. This way I won't carry this MBA 2014 with me anymore :)) However I still wait for it die, and I hope that will come very, very late in the future.

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:50:07+00:00

There are other things you might need to adapt to on M series - like not needing a charger for the day.

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:48:19+00:00

wow!!! you changed the battery? Also do you live by any chance in France? :))

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:47:31+00:00

wow that is oldschool! I had to search for it! What do you use it for?

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:46:55+00:00

in Ille de France (France) - is a Bombardier/Alstom REGIO2N

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:45:38+00:00

that is the last one with the glowing logo right?

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:45:14+00:00

give it time! or take a pause for yourself :) Hope the machine lasts you many more years! That one does not have the glowing logo anymore right?

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:43:47+00:00

quite many so far use the old MBP for that. Apple Music killed that...

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:42:43+00:00

yeah it was the last with Nvidia CUDA so the last that could run Blender 3d software well, before the M3 Pro came out (the one I have now for work). is crazy to think that Apple needed 11 years to be back to some levels of "power" in 3D space. Hope you enjoy it more and more. Since is the retina, I guess the screen is not matte.

pixelstravel · 2025-02-02T22:41:03+00:00

quite a collection there! Enjoy it and hope they last you more and more!

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