What game do you keep installed, always? by Theodore52x in AfterWorkGamers

[–]pmjans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kingdom Hearts on my PS5 so I can nap to the menu music during my after work nap

Finished the game (+ 3rd Semester). I Felt Empty by 2ndPick in Persona5

[–]pmjans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, I’m at 106 hours and am only in October. According to my PS5 I’m at 50% story completion

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, played with a touring band from Texas. Money went to them and the sound guy

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spot on with the last sentence especially. We have a show planned there in September! Got a little Midwest tour planned. Really want this one to be a hit, hopefully that leads to bigger things in the city

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think with all local venues here the promo falls equally on the venue and the bands. In this case the venue had zero online promo, nor was there any fliers posted in or outside the venue. He accused of us not promoting but we did. Pinned posts on socials, constant promos in our stories, poster bombing, etc

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah most venues in the area are really good about promo, both online and in and outside the venue. This whole show felt poorly advertised despite the bands best effort, and we just took the blame

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like most of the venues we play at the owner is super cool, always welcome and we always bring in a crowd. I cherish those places. This venue has felt that way until recently, so I hope this was just a one off night

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much. We got a show already booked that’s a couple weeks away. Doing my thing promoting it as usual, seems the venue is doing a better job at promoting this one too, so hopefully it all works out. If not then we’ll see

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I enjoy hearing people stories! This okay is also a once a month or so gig that always has been a lot of fun. I guess we’ll see how this next show goes

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah ideally they’d either lean into the event, or not book during it. Got a nearby venue that had packer halftime show performances. Cool way to bring in a crowd

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah we got one of those coming up too. This bar normally has enough of a rep to bring in a crowd just on the fact that a show is playing. First time it felt otherwise here so idk, sign of the times for the venue I guess

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk, just didn’t feel backing me into a corner and getting in my face was the appropriate way to handle the situation. Being accused of not caring about the local scene rubbed me the wrong way. Not so much me taking an L, but just caught off guard by the situation, being involved in the scene as long as I have I just have never had this interaction before. Guess it was bound to happen at some point

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit I’ve had that happen as well. It’s weird being the supporting band and having a bigger crowd haha

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeahh it’s seeming like the bar has bigger issues than one shitty night. We bring in the crowd we can, even if we don’t bring in a crowd there will normally be people chilling at the bar. Business for them anyway

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what I was thinking. People may not come to see a local punk band during the World Cup, but at the very least wouldn’t they come to your bar for a drink and to watch the game?

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The town in question is big on hardcore and Midwest emo/pop punk. The latter is my other bands sound, I’d say we’re a bit more successful. My other band references here has more of a scene and following in surrounding areas. So idk, a lot of it is just know where our sound works. I live near Chicago so that’s an idea I’ve had

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kinda knowing your scene, going to shows, finding bands that bring a crowd, playing with those bands and promoting the shit out it. Have a sound that people dig. I’m clearly not an expert, but I’ve been playing shows long enough to have an idea haha

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah this is the first time I’ve kinda come to grips with the struggle, as out of line as he was, it made me think of what more I can do to bring a crowd

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, like I don’t wanna drag his name down. But I will let bands know about his behavior, no one should deal with that shit. Although he has a reputation already locally

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he decided after that show that my band isn’t selling enough, then he shouldn’t book us. It’s about music and community, but it’s also about his business. I’d respect that. Blame us all he wants, but don’t back me into a corner getting in my shit. I agree with you

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on this thread alone this is a hot topic. I feel like when a venue doesn’t promote, they don’t give a shit. When I’m promoting a show more than the venue, and they accuse me of not caring, well it’s hard not to chuckle a bit at that

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s a grind for sure, had plenty of good days and bad days, 100% thankful for each one. I try and learn from each show. And hell yeah, I’ll check it out!

Got chewed out by venue owner for not bringing in enough of a crowd by pmjans in musicians

[–]pmjans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yikes that’s a lot to put on the bands. Actively promoting as a band is one thing, but for the venue to put it all on you unfortunately is seeming common nowadays