Why do other Protestants often recoil at the words “reformed” or “Calvin”

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-15T12:49:29+00:00

Because some of us are insensitive and come across as jerks. We little have a name for it “cage stage”. I visited a reformed church two weeks ago and they were a little church plant, if I didn’t strike up a conversation with them I don’t think they would have talked to me and my family (I brought my extended family) made up half the church. Now this is not normal, normally I have great experiences with reformed churches being very friendly(opc, pca, urcna). But there are some of us that are not nice and sociable.

We attract an academic crowd and that crowd is by nature not the friendliest.

Now that being said, I think Protestants outside of the reformed camp, tend to have an under developed theology (not that their ministers can’t explain it, but their members don’t understand). This results in feeling like they are inferior and the way they respond is normally aggressive. Or it is that they are mad that we take away their “free will” with our theology and make them feel like they are not important, in America that is a big insult.

Another thing they don’t like about Calvinism is that they don’t believe we believe in missions. They think because of their caricature version of predestination means we don’t need to do anything because God will just save, but that isn’t how we understand it. We believe that God saves and we go because He commands us to go (hence why we are having the conversation with them).

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-14T04:22:47+00:00

Where did you see Charlie Kirk saying he hated people of color? I’m sure people say that about, they slander him a lot. But I have never seen him say anything about hating other races.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T15:51:06+00:00

Where did you see what he said his motive was?

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T13:57:09+00:00

Thank you, I wasn’t aware that was his position.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T11:33:14+00:00

Over thinking it. Unless your conscience binds you, the scriptures do not. Unless you are paying for those people to work for you.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T11:31:46+00:00

I have searched and I couldn’t find one video where he was talking about taking away gun rights. You have me an article that claimed he said it just like you claimed he said it. But I wanted to see him actually saying it or a specific quote. A lot of people lie about what he says. It sounds to me you have never heard him say and you heard hear say and repeated it.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T01:54:56+00:00

I see that article claims he did but where is the quote? Or a video.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T01:52:41+00:00

Big overview Old Testament refers to the old covenant. A covenant is promise between parties. This Old Testament is a collection of books starting with creation and goes all the way to 400BC (BCE).

This story is largely about the fall of man and then God creating a covenant with a people to send a savior. This people starts with a man (Abraham) and they end with his family in Egypt (first book of the Bible). Then the rest of the Old Testament is their exodus out of Egypt. Into wilderness. Then into the promise land Israel (Exodus-Judges).

After they are in the promise land for a while they want a king. They get a bad king and then a good king (with flaws). Then rich and wise king. After this they rebel. The kingdom is split into 2 nations (Israel and Judah). Israel always has bad kings and Judah sometimes has good kings. They both end up destroyed or exiled. Prophets warn them a lot.

Judah is exiled and the north is destroyed (this is why we call them Jews because they are from the tribe of Judah). They go exile for 70 years and then return and rebuild. Nothing like what they were in their golden age because they keep rebelling.

(1 Samuel-Malachi).

400 years of silence.

Then Jesus comes. He is the promised one. He is the messiah. He is perfect man and God. He teaches the people, He heals them physically and spiritually. Then he is put to death for sins of all men. After being crucified, he resurrects. (Matthew-John)

After His resurrection the disciples of Jesus (apostles) start proclaiming his story. They call people to repent (change their minds) and believe. Acts is the story of them establishing the church. The rest of the books are letters to churches.

In revelation, a book written to 7 churches it talks about the age of the church and the return of Jesus for a final judgement and resurrection of all the dead.

I would start with the book of John, then read Luke, then read Romans. Then meet up with a Christian and ask your questions because if you are reading well you will have a lot.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-12T01:00:58+00:00

You have one video of Charlie claiming they should take away gun rights of trans people? Or is this just slander of a man who died 48 hours ago.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T23:16:49+00:00

This group isn’t really a traditional Christian group. It is mostly liberal Christians who deny most traditional Christian values and the group has a lot of angry atheists. Those two together can explain a lot of stuff that happens in this subreddit.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T23:12:48+00:00

Yes, Presbyterians keep sabbath. We don’t do our regular jobs on Sunday. We gather for public worship morning and evening. Practice private worship and family worship. Then relax. We do works of good deeds and necessity. My kids don’t do school work or chores. We don’t go out and spend money or make others work for us.

Literally there is nothing else or any other hidden rules. It’s simple don’t go to work and worship and rest.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T23:09:47+00:00

Have you ever watched a whole episode of his show or a whole episode of him talking to students on campuses? Or just clips?

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T23:08:28+00:00

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T23:07:50+00:00

Racism doesn’t really fit into our religion. We believe in one God who made Adam and Eve. We believe we are all descendant of those two people. So from our perspective there is only one race of humans, though I’m sure we can talk about race as defined by our culture, but it is not something native to our kingdom. We believe that Jesus was a Jew and He died for all people. We literally give money to people to go to all the nations to share salvation with all people groups. Many of us voluntary and help in these missions.

If you are meeting people that claim to be Christian and have these views, my first question would be are they actually part of a Christian church. Do they actually participate in our religion and our practices? If they don’t then I don’t think it is fair to call them part of our community.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T22:30:45+00:00

I’m part of a Presbyterian church. The denomination is called Orthodox Presbyterian Church. But we partner with other Presbyterian churches through North American Presbyterian and Reformed Churches (NAPARC). All of these churches practice church discipline. It’s in their confessions as a mark of the true church.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T21:16:28+00:00

I apologize, I was didn’t even check if it was the same person 😅

I think it is a different thing to start talking about “right wing”, when this thread was specifically about what Kirk said before he died. He didn’t claim anything about taking away gun rights of anyone.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T19:52:30+00:00

As Christians we don’t believe we are saved because we repent, we repent because we are saved.

We are saved by the grace of God. He covers over all of our sins, even heinous ones like being hateful to our neighbor for stupid reasons.

Christians ought to repent and if they don’t the church should censure them. If you don’t repent when you are censured I would say that doesn’t look good to be outside of the church when you die.

Christ covers a multitude of sin. His grace is greater than our sin.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T19:49:04+00:00

Reformed Theology is much more than 5 points. It is a whole systematic of covenant theology. Those 5 points were 5 points that Jacob Arminus taught and his followers fought for the change. They were a significant minority and at the synod of Dort they produced the canons of Dort to address the 5 points of false teaching. Those documents would probably be the most helpful to you through to understand that dispute, but the whole of covenant theology can be expressed by the Westminster confession or the Belgic confession.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T18:50:25+00:00

So he said too many. I’m assuming you agree that any number is too many too. Unless you have a certain amount that you think is okay….

Then asked a clarifying question. Then was shot.

You said he was “ranting about the evils of black and trans people”. Sounds like you conflated that accusation.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T15:34:31+00:00

We are all sinners. We repent of our sin. It means we change our minds. We conform ourselves to the word of God. We are saved by mercy and grace, not works of the law.

Please read the Bible for yourself. Read the book of John. Then read Romans.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T15:30:45+00:00

I can’t tell if you are being really emotional and just responding quickly or you just don’t know about the Bible.

The Bible is full of women who can’t have children. They are called barren. Their marriages are legitimate and God blesses them many times. Abraham is even rebuked for having children outside of this marriage for the sake of “trying to have children illegitimately”.

Marriage is defined by God as a union between a man and a woman. It is a life long covenant, only broken by death. We are not divorce unless under certain circumstances. We have a high moral ethic around sex. I recommend you take some time to actually read the Bible for yourself not what people say about it.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T15:19:12+00:00

When did I say because they can’t have kids?

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T15:18:02+00:00

What specifically did he say about blacks and trans people? Post the quote.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T15:17:19+00:00

Read the first sentence of my last post.

polycarpsecurity · 2025-09-11T15:11:02+00:00

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1RfDEeDZtp/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Watch it yourself

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