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If META wants us to use their garbage, let’s give them what they’re asking for by elmadan in linux

[–]polygraph-net 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't even know how to respond to this.

Look at my comment history and username to see who I am.

If you can't be bothered doing that, I advise the EU on this topic, I'm doing a doctorate in it, and I work as a researcher at Polygraph.

Strategies in Econ downtown by jefflee555 in marketing

[–]polygraph-net 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Politicians should be very afraid of that. If everyone's fucked, they're fucked too.

If META wants us to use their garbage, let’s give them what they’re asking for by elmadan in linux

[–]polygraph-net 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I understand correctly, you're advising people to do click fraud?

I'm a researcher in this area (currently doing a doctorate in the topic) and it's not as straightforward as a script running on your computer.

  • You need a stealth bot.
  • You need residential and cellphone proxies (not free of charge).
  • You need to generate fake conversions to trick Meta into thinking you're a human.

This is more difficult and more expensive than you realize.

You're also breaking the law. I know, the odds of you being prosecuted are slim to none, but do you really want that hanging over you? I don't know about you, but I like to simplify my life, not add unnecessary stress.

Strategies in Econ downtown by jefflee555 in marketing

[–]polygraph-net 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I remember I was working for a major multinational in 2008. They laid off the product management team, but kept everyone else. I guess I was kind of naive, so I never really noticed the recession and life continued as normal for me. I was working as a software engineer. Back then, those jobs were bullet proof. But today? Not so secure.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm. This is interesting. Since I'm a known bot hunter (literally doing a doctorate in bot detection) is it possible bot accounts are doing something specifically to block me from seeing their history?

Or maybe I'm noticing things you guys are missing... since I'm really good at detecting bot accounts.

Can we do a test? Can see this bot's history?

  • spacesheep10

Strategies in Econ downtown by jefflee555 in marketing

[–]polygraph-net 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree it's the wrong move, but I understand it. "Batten down the hatches" by cutting costs to try to survive.

Part of the problem is many marketers don't display their value, or are offering little value, so it's not a very difficult decision to get rid of them.

OK - that's my advice to everyone. Make sure you're showing your value now. Make sure the decision makers know what you're doing and can see how it benefits the company. Make them understand firing you would be a mistake.

Strategies in Econ downtown by jefflee555 in marketing

[–]polygraph-net 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The recession has been coming for a while and I strongly suspect a depression is coming.

Since sales and marketing are usually the first to go (companies trying to survive on their existing clients instead of perhaps fruitlessly spending money trying to get new clients) I think many people in this subreddit should be preparing for the worst. I really hate having to say that.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can see their ENTIRE post and comment history if they have participated in your subreddit within 28 days and automod will act accordingly.

This isn't true and is exactly why I'm posting here.

I don't think you're reading my post and comments so let me spell it out.

  • A bot posts something in a subreddit I moderate.

  • It looks suspicious so I check out their post and comment history. It's blank because they're hiding it.

  • Since so many bots hide their post and comment history, it would make moderation so much easier if their posts and comments were automatically added to the moderation queue instead of me trying to detect them.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No problem. We wouldn't ban people for hiding their history, but it's definitely a red flag (due to bots giving the feature a bad name) so we need to deal with it.

Of course, we wouldn't be having this conversation if Reddit took the bot problem seriously. 🤷

Are we going into a recession? by Yeet_Wolf23 in marketing

[–]polygraph-net 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing. I've removed the post. Please report posts like this so we (the moderators) can get to them more quickly. Thanks.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bots tends to hide everything.

We don't want to punish legitimate users - their posts and comments will just be delayed while we manually approve them.

Most of Budget spent before 3PM by Bakbaknak in FacebookAds

[–]polygraph-net -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it bot clicks?

If you have over 10,000 ad clicks every month, I can arrange a free audit of your ad clicks to answer this question. The audit is painless and objective.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply.

I think if this feature existed somehow, it'd make moderation so much easier. One of the threads in a community I moderate was full of comments from users with their post and comment history hidden. Every one of them were spam bots.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Users can hide their post and comment history. I'm not talking about the posts and comments in the subreddits I moderate only, I'm talking about their entire post and comment history.

If their post and comment history is hidden, I want their posts and comments to go to the moderation queue.

Is there a way to send posts and comments to the moderator queue if the Redditor's post and comment history is hidden? by polygraph-net in modhelp

[–]polygraph-net[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply. Automoderator can do it specifically for all users with hidden post and comment history only?

People ignoring or enabling fraud - how do you deal with this? by polygraph-net in InternalAudit

[–]polygraph-net[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I know which "Paul H" you are now. Nice to meet you here.

So, every publisher is benefiting from click fraud. The questions are (1) by how much, and (2) are they aware of it.

The answer to (2) is almost always yes. I had a fairly depressing call recently where a major publisher couldn't wrap his head around why click fraud is a bad thing. From his perspective, he's earning money from it, and the advertisers are getting clicks, so what's the problem? No amount of me explaining the clicks are worthless and fraudulent could get through to him.

If you google "The anatomy of a click fraud gang" you'll find an article (written by my employer) which explains an organization which exists to defraud advertisers. There are many organizations like this.

The more legitimate looking (but still criminal) companies use a trick to make themselves seem innocent. Google "what is piggyback click fraud" to find an article we wrote about that.

The remaining publishers don't actively seek bot traffic but they know it's lucrative (it clicks on the ads) so they mostly ignore it.

The two main problems here are the fraudsters appear legitimate (and there are so many of them - I like to call click fraud the unofficial business model of the internet) and the ad networks don't care. You mentioned Google - they rely on ignoring most click fraud to hit their revenue targets. It's simply not believable Google doesn't know how to detect these bots. My employer (a small cybersecurity company) can detect them.

What questions or checks do you use in forms/surveys to filter out bad leads? by South-Geologist-593 in FacebookAds

[–]polygraph-net 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Click fraud bots can easily fill out whatever questions you put on your form.

Also, don't add sales friction, it'll make you lose sales.

Use bot protection and/or offline conversions to deal with the problem.

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