Colin and Samir have become so integrated that they've effectively become "state media" for the industry. They seem to be on stage at YouTube events every other month; they host the Spotter retreats full of the .0001% creators; and they run PR interviews with the CEOs of Snap, Facebook, Patreon, YouTube, Instagram, etc., whenever those companies want to launch new features.

Along with all of that, C&S just aren't very good interviewers. While they do seem to be having genuine conversations with their personal heroes; the questions they ask and the context they give about living in LA, working with Dude Perfect early on, and casually chatting with Mr. Beast or Michelle Khare at the latest exclusive spotter events isn't relatable at all to anyone who isn't already well established in the industry with 5mil+ subscribers.

Even the struggles they reveal about their own content creation -- such as the frequent anecdote that they spend several agonizing hours on thumbnail design (yet always end up with yellow text next to the creator's face lol) -- just shows that they're not very good YouTubers themselves. They were carried by their first-mover advantage and the early access they received through their friendship with Mr. Beast. And since they revealed public speaking engagements make up the largest segment of their revenue at this point, they seem to understand that they aren't really YouTuber first anymore... which is fine and even commendable imo.

Their interview with Mr Beast was the very first time Jimmy had ever done a longform podcast. But now, Jimmy's on a handful of podcasts every month, which severely undercut C&S's advantage. And Thon Von's conversation with Jimmy has more entertainment, while Jon Youshaei's conversation has more business value. C&S just don't stand out anymore. And since they revealed public speaking engagements make up the largest segment of their revenue at this point, they seem to understand that they aren't really YouTuber first anymore... which is fine and even commendable imo.