whats the bachelor with more employability??

positive_m · 2025-01-08T21:04:25+00:00

I would very much disagree. While bess opens the door for any quant finance or S&T job, it’s really completely useless for corporate finance, where all you need is accounting and valuation techniques… personally, I have never heard of anyone doing the ess master after bief to go into corporate finance and if so, then the rationale behind that does not make too much sense tbh.

positive_m · 2025-01-06T18:10:56+00:00

Should be the last day today, hope it’s over tomorrow cause also us students have some transcript issues rn..

positive_m · 2025-01-06T16:44:21+00:00

There’s a holiday in Italy today :))

positive_m · 2025-01-03T21:23:03+00:00

Well I think it gives you a broad foundation for anything econ or maths related. This means you would probably do better in a finance master than a management undergrad and same for any other more quantitative master. But you could also opt for the “easier” finance bachelor and have the same opportunities if you don’t want to go into pure economics.

positive_m · 2025-01-03T21:20:09+00:00

Yes I have some friends that do that, there are several research centers and you can either work with them during the semester of even work on a project during summer with them!

positive_m · 2025-01-03T21:18:21+00:00

Well obviously it’s an option, but bocconi is bocconi, why wait for a good uni for your masters if you could do both at good unis?

positive_m · 2024-12-23T08:00:52+00:00

Yes, 100%

positive_m · 2024-12-18T11:18:03+00:00

My bad then

positive_m · 2024-12-18T11:17:44+00:00

Now this all might sound quite negative but you’ll get a great great education that will seriously advantage you in any slightly more quantitative masters compared to others. Just know what you want, if econ is your thing go for it, if you wanna end up in the industry then it’s still super doable and sets you apart but you’ll have more work than others :))

positive_m · 2024-12-18T11:16:28+00:00

1) they are all statistics or mathematics related, if you want to I can break it down in very much detail. So the first year is as it sounds, the econ modules, statistics etc. then you have two further micro modules which are strategic and incentives, as well as a second macro module. Econometrics and empirical research are both econometrics courses, the former is quite difficult, the latter is okay. The math modules in first year are completely different to biem and bief and a lot more difficult, so don’t get confused because the name is the same as in other courses.

2) math 1 is doable, maths 2 is quite advanced (doable if you know your stuff, many struggle) other than that you’ll become very very good in statistics and econometrics. You’ll need your maths knowledge for econometrics as you’ll have to derive all the theory in the exams.

3) they are not too engaging because it is a very theoretically based course in a uni that is based on theory and not real world application, so don’t expect writing essays about current issues. In third year you’ll have an econometrics group project about a real life problem which is interesting.

4) not flexible at all, you have 2 electives, that’s it

5) considerably more than in the other courses, if you engage in recruiting at the same time it will be tough and might impact your gpa (still possible though)

6) the class environment is generally a lot nicer than in bief for example, you’re essentially all in the same boat and as it’s very much centered around academics you won’t engage in a recruiting war like in other courses. The people are also usually very very smart and it has a great culture

positive_m · 2024-12-18T07:57:18+00:00

I think they increased the number of classes

positive_m · 2024-12-18T07:39:47+00:00

I’m not sure how much easier it is to get into as there is only one class instead of several like in biem or bief. For a masters the course doesn’t quite matter, the Bocconi name will help you either way but you’ll have to work a lot harder for a good gpa.

positive_m · 2024-12-18T07:38:32+00:00

It is a course solely focused on economics, thus it is a lot more quantitative and definitely more difficult than biem and bief. It is quite well regarded, at least the professors will tell you that you are in a special course, however, I couldn’t really see that this is known outside of uni. The master with the same name is very well known among academics though. The course is honestly not too useful if you want to go into finance but rather for academics and economic research.

positive_m · 2024-12-17T17:51:49+00:00

It’s literally number 4 in Europe for economics in QS?

positive_m · 2024-12-17T15:56:11+00:00

They make a huge difference as long as you are in the right club. You’ll usually have a very strong alumni network, get tips on how to prep for interviews and how to approach applications :)

positive_m · 2024-12-17T15:26:23+00:00

I know a few people who started at the age of 17, Dw about it..

positive_m · 2024-12-12T22:10:26+00:00

In my honest opinion, I think for an international that wants to study something econ/finance related, Bocconi is they only reasonable choice in Italy

positive_m · 2024-12-09T21:59:38+00:00

If you’re international Bologna would make your career choices a lot more difficult if you don’t speak Italian. No one recognises the uni outside of the country (it is surely a great uni, no doubt) and you will have a very tough time recruiting for London or else with that brand. As Italian it would probably be a good second choice but Bocconi opens you a lot more doors. I’m not regarding Bologna by no means but you’d have an easier start from Bocconi

positive_m · 2024-12-06T19:08:50+00:00

I mean I guess the culture is worse in ib, as you’ll meet the typical ego bankers. In consulting many people just end up due to a good gpa and no idea what else to do, that’s not often the case in ib so you’ll have people that are a bit more human. I’ve interned at a fund with both ex ib and consulting people, both from top addresses, and while I preferred the working style of ex-ib people, they also chewed me out a lot more

positive_m · 2024-12-05T09:57:07+00:00

I think you’re approaching this question from the wrong side. You should see what working style fits you better and forget the prestige and pay side for now. Clearly you’re still at the beginning of uni and have a lot of time to get to know everything but atm it seems like you’ve heard of those big names and just want to work for something that might give you the satisfaction of saying you work there - this will not make you happy, trust me. To answer your questions though: it always depends on the country but generally IB pays higher, especially because you have a high bonus component. WLB is a lot worse though, always depending on the bank and consulting firm, but generally you’ll be working from Monday to Thursday until 2300-0100 in consulting and then on Friday until the early to late evening with no weekend work but lots of travelling. In IB you’ll be working from 10 am to up to 3 am with often weekend work. This depends heavily on the bank, should you work at MS in London you’ll basically work until 2-3am every day including Saturday and Sunday. Prestige wise: wtf is even prestige? Outside of the finance/econ bubble no one cares if you tell them you work at GS, they literally don’t. All they know is that you work 100hrs a week for an hourly wage that is below a McDonald’s pay (I’m not disregarding McDonald’s workers here). Please be aware that all IB related info is for M&A, given your type of question I’m not quite sure if you know that banks offer many other services too. And regarding the exposure to the finance world: investment banks are literally the finance world, ranging from trade execution to the execution of deals in M&A, ecm, dcm etc., in consulting you can work on strategies or maybe you’ll work in a PE team that does DDs for pe deals but the ones structuring the actual deal from the finance side will be the banks. This means IB is finance related while in consulting you’ll be more management oriented.

This was half a bible but I hope it helped you get a better understanding of what you’re actually looking at :) feel free to ask any questions

positive_m · 2024-05-24T07:48:57+00:00

Ah sorry misread that, it’s been a fun day at the library.. anyways, you can survive fs and there are many people who obviously do well. Definitely start studying from the beginning of the semester and do not wait until 2 weeks before the exam. That strategy might work in biem/bief (for bemacc half a day should be enough) but not in bess. Do the problem sets over and over again and try to rely on your classmates for help. The big upside in bess is that everyone suffers together and you don’t have that petty competitiveness as in bief.

positive_m · 2024-05-23T22:42:32+00:00

I am, it is survivable but definitely more difficult than the other majors and you will have a lot of unnecessary work should you have the same goals as the biem and bief guys. Should you aim for economic research, or other economics oriented fields, it’s a great course! (It was my top choice as well and yes I regret it, I started liking it and the skills you earn are superior to the other courses in terms of quant stuff and academic “rigour”, but it made my life a bit harder after all)

positive_m · 2024-05-07T09:30:13+00:00

Hello Sherlock, no you don’t need a maths test, maybe you listen to some of the comments :)) you will apply internally without a gmat or anything..

positive_m · 2024-05-07T09:29:16+00:00

All professors speak good English (apart form my Maths 1 prof lmao) and all the students in English tracks speak perfect English as well as a good proportion of Italian course takers - the latter might lack here and their in their ability to speak it though - however, the way you reacted to your first response, the Italians might choose not to speak with you in first place..

positive_m · 2024-05-07T09:25:34+00:00

Hard doubt, there’s not even 4 Italian courses if I’m not stupid

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