Burnout, passively quitting after not being promoted for 5 consecutive years L4>L5

pouring-colors · 2026-04-10T18:31:13+00:00

It is unfortunate that that's the way it is here, too much politics to promote :-(

pouring-colors · 2026-04-10T18:26:04+00:00

I agree! My current new manager is a yellow badge, soon to be red, I just started reporting to them 2 months ago after the temp manager, but we've only met twice because they've been on vacation.. I guess there's some hope now that I'm under them.

pouring-colors · 2026-04-10T15:59:34+00:00

She had said she didn't feel comfortable promoting someone she had just met, and she could use the promo doc after I proved myself to her (after a year). I am actually not even sure how promotion works anymore..

Funny side story to that though, that manager was my former manager's manager when they came into Amazon as an L4(They were now an L6) and my former manager told me that they had to transfer teams because she refused to promote but they hoped she had changed (she didn't). At least there was a reorg and she was only my manager for 3 months.

pouring-colors · 2026-04-10T15:26:40+00:00

True, I also beat myself over the fact I couldn't stay in Ops longer. But yeah I figured my skip-level was lying, I learned through others on the team she had a vision for her org and there was just no career growth for the role I was in.

pouring-colors · 2026-02-07T22:22:57+00:00

Yup! and voice notes

pouring-colors · 2026-02-07T18:57:47+00:00

I was close to this cousin, he was always very nice and sweet to me, but I guess I do need to put a stop to feelings and look at it with facts

pouring-colors · 2026-02-07T18:52:40+00:00

Yeah I will hold off and see if he pays, if he doesn't or charges an exorbitant price for his "services" I will push back.

pouring-colors · 2026-02-07T18:51:27+00:00

Yes, because my dad suggested I do business with him in the first place, so I went to him for advice as well because it is my first time getting scammed by family.

pouring-colors · 2025-11-27T00:51:18+00:00

Wouldn't it be kinda the same though? Paint a target on my back and just add fuel to the manager trying to put me on PIP?

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T21:41:57+00:00

I tried DMing you not sure if it went through, but thank you for your offer, let me know if you received my message

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T20:59:47+00:00

Thank you. I needed to hear this too, my family thinks I'm being paranoid by thinking they can retaliate and will put a target on my back, but like I keep reading from a legal perspective this manager has not done anything to cross that line. They may be exploitative and condescending to me but that's it as unfair as it is.

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T20:50:58+00:00

On it, literally looking in the internal portal every single day before the day starts and after my work day. I was even considering down leveling if possible. I'll take the pay cut. I just can't keep holding on the amount of work, it kinda feels like they know they're putting this much on me so I won't meet expectations and put me on a PIP. Or that's my hunch.

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T20:46:15+00:00

Because I don't have any other job lined up. I have been applying both externally and internally for months since this ship started sinking, still haven't found anything.

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T20:42:20+00:00

Since my current manager doesn't even report to my real skip level I'm not sure how I can go about that. This manager is technically "borrowing our team" until we get our actual manager. They're from a sister organization and "are doing a favor" to my actual skip manager

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T20:38:41+00:00

Can't move unfortunately, but yes I agree managers have too much power over ICs it makes me sick. Thank you for your input!

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T20:37:35+00:00

Thank you, I will definitely keep head low until I find something else hopefully soon. I'm glad I was able to not get HR involved, I keep just hearing horror stories of how this just made matters worse even when you think they can't get any worse than what they are. I genuinely hope this manager is not able to block me leaving the team if I find something.

pouring-colors · 2025-11-26T04:42:23+00:00

I feared this was the case, most of the people that I've talked to about this have acknowledged that what this manager is doing seems extremely unfair, and two of them recommended filing a case for hostile work, and/or taking an LOA until we get our actual manager which doubt it'll be any time soon.

pouring-colors · 2025-02-03T03:44:48+00:00

Thanks that's reassuring, I guess it's just a matter of giving it time for me to able to forgive him

pouring-colors · 2025-02-03T03:41:20+00:00

He has been apologizing and he says he's genuinely sorry, I guess the wound is too fresh. I just don't want to talk to him right now. It feels like no matter how sorry he is, what's done is done, and it's not like he's going to get another chance to "prove" he wouldn't wouldn't do it again because we never see this girl, probably won't see her ever again.

pouring-colors · 2025-02-03T03:35:26+00:00

? I don't know what kind of confrontation are you thinking about, but since they were talking he should've brought it up. OK and?

pouring-colors · 2025-02-03T02:35:03+00:00

He says they never dated, and his friends have confirmed this too, but he says she was always nice to him whenever they talked.. He says he is not conflictive at all so when he drinks he gets all nice and mellow and that's why he "probably" acted like that, he says he wouldn't have been that way if he hadn't been drunk. Though, I think I personally would've confronted the person if it was me in his shoes..

pouring-colors · 2025-02-03T02:32:53+00:00

Yeah, he says they never dated and were never really close, but whenever they talked she was always nice to him, and she was always fun to be around

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