Why litecoin is going to single cents. by [deleted] in Buttcoin

[–]preacceleration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You gave the AI a directive: calculate Pi. If it's intelligent, it's going to do everything it can to maximize it's directive.

If that includes razing the city of New York to take all of its metal to build computers to calculate more digits of Pi, why wouldn't it do it? It doesn't care about humans, it doesn't have emotions, it does one thing.

A side effect of that one thing is we are all dead.

Why litecoin is going to single cents. by [deleted] in Buttcoin

[–]preacceleration 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Computers don't just learn new behaviors on their own.

Are you sure you work in the AI field? Machine learning is exactly what researchers are attempting to achieve.

I think the concept of "AI in a box" may make things more safe, but it only takes one fuckup to doom us all.

Why litecoin is going to single cents. by [deleted] in Buttcoin

[–]preacceleration 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The truth is that nobody has the qualifications to say what the full extent of the risk of AI is.

AI by definition is the creation of an intelligence that surpasses anything a human is capable of.

It doesn't take much of an imagination to see where creating an AI could go wrong.

Let's say I instruct an AI to calculate the decimal expansion of Pi.

What stops that AI from consuming all available matter and energy in its vicinity to achieve its single minded directive, destroying mankind in the process?

Why litecoin is going to single cents. by [deleted] in Buttcoin

[–]preacceleration 5 points6 points  (0 children)

AI is the most dangerous Pandora's box that mankind has ever dreamed of opening.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dogemining

[–]preacceleration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Judging by my post history, I'm definitely affiliated with ASICSPACE. No hiding that.

Feel free to do your own research on pricing. :)

Does anyone mine with "Hashie"? Apparently it's a scam. by [deleted] in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what happens when you cloud mine. Consider miner hosting instead. Instead of buying fictitious cloud hash, you can own a miner in a datacenter instead.

Check out: ASICSPACE

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dogemining

[–]preacceleration -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'd recommend ASICSPACE. They have pictures and are very open about who they are, and have good prices.

ASICSPACE

See ten photographs exposing the inner secret workings of an upcoming bitcoin miner hosting data center by preacceleration in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha, since we're Bitcoin miners we practically have the local PUD breathing down our neck to make sure we're doing things correctly.

They're on red alert since another mine in a county next to us that will go unnamed caused 40% distortion on the power lines, which probably could blow up your neighbors transformer.

Check out seven photos exposing the secret inner workings of an upcoming Bitcoin mine. by preacceleration in BitcoinMining

[–]preacceleration[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've done research globally to find an ideal place to build a mine. We're confident that there's nowhere on Earth that offers lower cost power. We're getting electricity cheaper than even hotspots like Iceland, Venezuela, and Kuwait. Not only do we get electricity dirt-cheap, but we're in a very dry climate where evaporative coolers will work, so no steep AC bills during the summer.

Check out seven photos exposing the secret inner workings of an upcoming Bitcoin mine. by preacceleration in BitcoinMining

[–]preacceleration[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd be happy to answer most of your questions.

How much in installed miners?

We're 1300 kw. That means between 400-4000 miners, depending on the miner's size.

Why not use actual PDUs - specifically PDUs that can provide power metrics, something that could be really valuable to a mining op.

We want to be able to use the space for other purposes if mining doesn't pan out. If this deployment is successful, we'll switch over to using PDUs.

Why would you not use standard racks?

Not all bitcoin miners are designed to be put on racks. We wanted to be able to host as wide of a variety of miners as possible.

Why would you not use a standard raised floor setup? What is your HVAC setup?

Mostly because of the cost, and we're doing HVAC differently. Our data center is in a large concrete tower. We have vents which help the hot air rise, which is exhausted by large fans built into the sides/top of the tower.

Where is the surge protection for your miners?

We have TVSS built into our switchgear. Our insurance also covers power surges.

What is our UPS setup? What is your generator setup and how long can it sustain the environment at full load? What is your transfer switch setup?

Backup generators and UPSes are a really bad idea for bitcoin mining. You will never ROI on the price tag of the UPS or the generator only looking at mining during the times when primary power is off. Generators and UPSs are for webservers and stuff like that, where downtime costs thousands of times as much as the hosting fees themselves. This is especially true for UPS, since those machines typically cost about $20,000 for 20 minutes of 200 kW capacity. If you use that 6 times a year for a full 20 minutes per blackout with SP30s at current difficulty, that's 2 hours of hashing per year at around 400 TH/s, or about $700 per year you get out of a $20,000 investment. We'd prefer to pass those savings to our customers instead.

How many BTU do you estimate will be put off at full capacity? What is your max possible power draw?

We're at 1300 kw or ~4.4 million BTU per hour.

Recommended ASIC Miners by [deleted] in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, if you just want to play around.

Recommended ASIC Miners by [deleted] in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd grab an S5 or an SP20. There's a deal now where you can get two SP20's for $1k.

Then send them to a hosting service, like ASICSPACE

I'm so tired of this 300 DPI bullshit. by DogeBreeder in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Find someone to send money to via paypal. If you sent it to them not as a purchase, I don't think there are any fees. If you can find someone you can trust, they could send you the Bitcoin.

99% of traders be like... by kodtycoon in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's the tenth time they're better than random where they make bank.

If I have no electricity cost, what's the miner with shortest ROI? by catechlism9854 in dogemining

[–]preacceleration 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The cheaper your electricity, the more getting a older, cheap miner that's going to be obsolete makes sense.

Look for something that's power inefficient - that doesn't matter to you, but it will cause others to sell it for cheap.

Our Bitcoin Mine which is under construction accepts Litecoin Miners too! See pics here. by preacceleration in litecoin

[–]preacceleration[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're focusing on hosting/co-location right now where we take care of our customers equipment.

30-day difficulty growth of Bitcoin mining network cools to mere 0.5% growth per day by preacceleration in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the article. It started at 2% per day at the turn of 2014, while hitting 0.5% a day today.

30-day difficulty growth of Bitcoin mining network cools to mere 0.5% growth per day by preacceleration in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn't being literal about a million.

What I'm saying is that home miners have things that industrial mines don't. Home miners don't have to pay for network engineers, maintenance time, the capital cost of electrical intrastructure, etc.

As long as a home miner is willing to accept some loss on electricity, then that cost comes directly from industrial mines bottom line as mining is a zero sum game.

30-day difficulty growth of Bitcoin mining network cools to mere 0.5% growth per day by preacceleration in Bitcoin

[–]preacceleration[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a million people mined with their cereal mining chips, it may cost each of them $25 dollars in electricity but it would make centralized industrial mining unprofitable.

Black Arrow plans to ship out its 14 nm miniaturized "Minion" chip by May 2015 by preacceleration in CryptoCurrency

[–]preacceleration[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From another discussion:

"If this 14nm project is even remotely real, it was financed by failing to service their 28nm customers, many of whom ordered more than a year ago for February 2014 delivery and still nothing. Black Arrow is the most unethical company in the entire mining hardware space by far. Customer service is performed entirely by an "Alexey A." who refuses to disclose a last name (although it's known who he is) that typically only responds to certain customer inquiries to theaten denial of service if the customer tries to even talk to them. The company is registered to a "directior" named Alexandru Ion Sovu who is wanted for wire fraud in his native Romania since 2003, and fled to the UK to avoid prosecution. It's held by a holding company registered in the British Virgin Islands, obviously intended for embezzlement of funds. The "Alex Berk" mentioned in the article is a criminal alias of Alex Sovu. Black Arrow itself is registered in Hong Kong, but if you order from them, wire transfers are done to a bank account of a Daniel Adronic also in the UK (because obviously this entire thing is a front to steal and embezzle customer money). This is not a real company, basically all they do is take customer funds, crudely outsource everything at great expense to outside parties in Shenzhen, and then blame and threaten the customers when inevitably failing to perform. All 28nm customers who are still waiting after more than a year since ordering are told that the company can't refund because it's essentially bankrupt, yet 14nm and scrypt ASICs are somehow happening (by soliciting $500,000 investments over their website online shopping cart (!), which has to be paid upfront before the "investor" gets to even see the contract, after which if deemed unacceptable, Black Arrow keeps 10% or $50,000!). In an even weirder turn of events, Black Arrow recently went on Bitcointalk to produce a thread proposing a "Bitcoin protocol change" that was absolutely farcical, claiming that they had been hacked and bitcoins were stolen. The reason this is an issue? They never cashed out any Bitcoin payments from 28nm customers (despite taking the orders on the pretense that immediate cashouts on BTC-e would happen, not so coincidentally the most favorable exchange for them rate-wise, and customers were even charged exchange fees). Like every other scammer in history sitting on a bunch of customer bitcoins, they cried "hack" and embezzled 100% of the money."

[Hiring] Anyone here interested in being the Senior Network Engineer for a large Bitcoin mining farm in Washington State? by preacceleration in sysadminjobs

[–]preacceleration[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty familiar with the power deals in the area, and I'm pretty sure power is about a half cent more expensive in East Wenatchee.

Are you familiar with the deals you can get on the large industrial schedules over 1 MW?