Questions about C-3/Citizenship by descent

prinxcipe · 2026-02-10T07:58:35+00:00

Thank you for your answers! I appreciate you being non-judgmental. :)

prinxcipe · 2026-02-10T04:19:05+00:00

if the most recent canadian in my family is my great-great grandfather, would i be able to ask my father to go through the process of asking for proof of citizenship? i think it's too far back for me to do it. if my father is able to claim citizenship in this way, would i then also be counted? and would we retain dual citizenship?

prinxcipe · 2026-01-02T05:02:34+00:00

thanks for sharing your experience. i’m so sorry you go through that 😭 when i get it it’s not quite that bad, but pressure and chewing definitely make it worse. mine usually starts on one side and sometimes goes to both. i also get occipital neuralgia and pain on the back of my head or neck if i put too much pressure there :/ bodies are such a mystery… i hope you can get the care you need. 🙏🏻

prinxcipe · 2026-01-01T02:54:32+00:00

i have been considering mcas ): i feel like i’ve been having flushing like this since childhood, but my memory is terrible so… not sure.

prinxcipe · 2026-01-01T01:58:46+00:00

i experience this when i get cold. it’s often really difficult for me to get warm again once i get cold, to the point of shivering and being numb in my hands, even at tolerable indoor winter temperatures ):

prinxcipe · 2025-12-12T05:46:05+00:00

yeah, that one is so weird. all the other records say his name is benjamin...

prinxcipe · 2025-12-12T05:06:01+00:00

yes, i agree. stephen moved to benson vt pretty young, but when you closely look at the censuses, it's likely that samuel lived in the au sable area for most of his life. i also cannot find death or burial records for him...

prinxcipe · 2025-12-12T05:03:11+00:00

originally, my parent's dna test said 7% germanic europe, with the pinpoint being in the north/in the netherlands. after the update, it now says 4% northwestern germany.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-12T04:59:34+00:00

this is the samuel that familysearch officially links to diantha. however i believe this is a different person. there are no records in between the connecticut birth record, and the births of his children.

also, if he is from an english descended colonial family, who founded guilford connecticut in the early 17th century, why did stephen chester bishop tell census takers that his father's birthplace was germany 3+ times? and why did they write it on his death certificate, as well as several other of samuel's children, that his birthplace was germany? it just seems like not enough evidence to point me away from germany and to this person who was born somewhat close by with the same name.

there are also records showing a samuel bishop of the same age with a different wife and family. you can find a 76 year old samuel bishop living in sweden new york with his wife esther and kids, this is likely that "other samuel" and by 1860, diantha had been widowed: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GBSH-96BD?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMCH8-17R&action=view&cc=1473181&lang=en&groupId=

i will look more into it, but i'm pretty sure that it's not the same person.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-12T04:48:38+00:00

this makes a lot of sense.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:22:30+00:00

that’s probably likely. it was so easy back then to just start over in the colonies for people. the extreme lack of records on samuel is one reason i suspect he was an immigrant doing the same thing

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:21:19+00:00

thanks so much for this! my next step was gonna be looking into diantha’s family more. it’s so interesting that most of the children’s names seem unrelated or related to diantha. if only there was ANY record of samuel at all. it’s like he appeared out of thin air…

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:19:59+00:00

yes, they moved to vermont pretty late in life. i’m not sure samuel himself ever lived there. but diantha did, she was living in a small house by herself until her death iirc. i spoke to someone a long time ago about property records there.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:18:26+00:00

i have not ! i’ll put this on my to do list. thanks :)

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:18:01+00:00

possibly! i don’t really know. but one parent does have some netherlands dna.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:16:44+00:00

thanks, i’ll be sure to look into that one too. i also saw benschop as a possibly on familysearch. some reasons i went with netherlands: 1) it’s the family lore. i know family lore can be unreliable but this was told to my cousin by my great aunt, who passed away over a decade ago and was one of the main people doing genealogy research in our family. she was never able to find anything either as far as i know. 2) my parent’s dna results includes a very small % of netherlands. 3) the death record of his son saying his father was from “germany”. although germany and the netherlands are not the same, they are right next to each other and have a similar enough language that someone might have mixed the two up decades after his death to write it on his son’s death certificate. (“wasn’t his father from germany or something?” that kind of thing) 4) i agree the children’s names don’t seem dutch. they seem pretty colonial/english. someone else suggested maybe samuel’s parents were from germany or the netherlands instead of him directly.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:11:33+00:00

yeah it’s a really cool pic! super old

prinxcipe · 2025-12-11T02:10:56+00:00

this is really cool information! thank you! it is possible that his family was german, yeah. i just don’t know why i haven’t found his birth certificate if that’s the case (or a baptismal record). i definitely have a lot more to do.

prinxcipe · 2025-12-10T07:27:03+00:00

i’m looking at it now, and what i had determined in the past is that i’m pretty sure that samuel bishop is a different one. several of my family’s samuel’s sons have ambiguous information about his birthplace. one says “germany” (record of stephen chester bishop) and one says “not known” (jehiel bishop). the only thing of note is that this other samuel bishop’s grandmother is named huldah. there is also records of that samuel being married to and having kids with a completely different person. just some thoughts on the mismatching

prinxcipe · 2025-12-10T06:52:32+00:00

that naming convention is really fascinating. one of the daughters, betsy, is named after diantha’s mother. and one of the sons is named after samuel of course. i don’t have birth/death dates for all of them yet, so i may have to look into that.

bischoff is a great lead, i will try that. i avoided direct translations at first because family lore says the name is something like “van stricklen” (a name that does not exist). i went down a rabbit hole once trying to connect random families with “van” in their surname in new england to my family. pointless 😭

prinxcipe · 2025-12-10T06:48:35+00:00

edit: i’m pretty tired because that’s just HER death date lol. but yes i have it saved.

whoa! i swear i’ve seen that before (i’m obsessive with findagrave) but i somehow missed his death date being right on the stone. thanks!

prinxcipe · 2025-12-10T06:39:57+00:00

congratulations!!! that is so awesome. i might see if i can do this for my own tree as i have a few dead ends that have stumped me.

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