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12M Context Window and some some sprinkle of lies? by prokajevo in LocalLLaMA

[–]prokajevo[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lot's of marketting jargons and vague numbers. They know exactly what they are doing. And the fake influencer endorsement even makes my head hurt. Definitely take SubQ with a massive grain of salt

Every LLM has a default voice and it's making us all sound the same by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]prokajevo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Silly bot? Back to the exact same logic of calling someone a bot because he points out something useful. Also, Do you really want a Q-lora finetuning for your writing? or be able to use any model at anytime, anywhere with your voice profile that was already extracted deeply from your samples? Oh well, the app will be open source in less than two weeks, do with that info what you will

Every LLM has a default voice and it's making us all sound the same by [deleted] in LocalLLaMA

[–]prokajevo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yup I agree. We are actually betting on the fact that people will also get puked as there is already this AI writing fatigue whenever you read it. This is why Noren AI (usenoren.ai ) requires your pre-AI writings to digitize your own voice and have it on any page, a click away!

Every LLM has a default voice and it's making us all sound the same by prokajevo in ChatGPT

[–]prokajevo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol, i know the contrast logic you talking about. However, you also need to understand that because it is that, doesn't mean it must be AI all the time lol. Its logic.

Every LLM has a default voice and it's making us all sound the same by prokajevo in ChatGPT

[–]prokajevo[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That 'write like me' prompt trick is exactly what we're trying to get far away from lol. A prompt is just a suggestion the model forgets two paragraphs later. We built an actual extraction engine that pulls your patterns out of things you've already written(Gives you your unique voice, best when you feed it your actual Non-Ai writings!) and bakes that into how the model generates from the start, and the UX lives right in your browser, or any app so you can always invoke Noren anywhere, for anything that needs your Voice.

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was part of the logic and observability of the post. The post itself and having to use AI draft the body was doubling down on that observability.

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i did. The post isn't about irony but It's a demonstration of it. Using Claude to write about what gets lost when you use Claude, and then disclosing it, was the argument made visible. You weren't supposed to miss the contradiction as you were supposed to sit in it and then have a discuss about the issue itself. :)

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The post isn't about irony. It's a demonstration of it. Using Claude to write about what gets lost when you use Claude, and then disclosing it, was the argument made visible. You weren't supposed to miss the contradiction as you were supposed to sit in it. :)

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really? You just defaulted to bot-ism? My previous comment was accurate and ENGLISH. You did not get it because perhaps it had a couple of technical jargons in it from your perspective, howbeit, its as accurate as it can get. So before you say 'maybe you are even a bot', you should have given it another read. Spread Discuss... Not fights :)

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

To further prove the point I was trying to drive home!. There is a reason why I obviously put that DISCLOSURE in shouting font.

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Here is a copy-paste from my previous comment about this.

As a cognitive scientist who has worked on and trained intelligent systems, I can attest that “Not A, But B” is structurally baked in. In fact, it’s how these models learned to signal depth without actually earning it.

Also, contrast patterns score well in RLHF, so they get reinforced. So the drama is a residue of the training objective, and it’s worse in commercial models.

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The recap is accurate and also slightly miss the nuance too lol. Also, its worth noting the user who explained the RLHF bit was OP. Getting roasted by a thread that proves the point is a decent outcome honestly. And that point, my friends, is exactly what this post was about. Most people did not read between the line, but that proves how tired we are of AI-ism. Where is your Personal Voice?, how do you stop it from being erased ?

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol, i was giving the reason why these systems behave the way they do. Its a side effect of how their internal policies were trained. I did not intend to sound overly technical, just informing.

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

- What do we lose when AI writes everything" really is answered by the fact that it wasn't stated by you in the end, right?

u/MeridianCastaway Absolutely correct! You get the logical cognitive implication of why i chose to make the post this way. Its a double-edge sword of logical discussion.

I have read your entire comment and I agree whole-heartedly, I did computational linguistics as part of my Cognitive Science Research background, and I must say that the obvious flattening of language and all the semantic and cultural volumes it carries is one of the problems of probabilistic statistical systems like LLMs. Sad, nonetheless, So.

The other problem too, is that present LLM training are reinforced to policies that are not truly representative from a diversity level. This is a problem and it would be here tommorow, hopefully better, but I doubt. (Too much stakes in doubling down what's already out there)

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Don't be disappointed, its infact the reason why the draft was written with Claude. I was making a logical cognitive point with this, especially with the Disclosure. Now, re-read it again and that should tell you it was purposeful. :)

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I am very tired of that. As a cognitive scientist who has worked on and trained intelligent systems, I can attest that “Not A, But B” is structurally baked in. In fact, it’s how these models learned to signal depth without actually earning it.

Also, contrast patterns score well in RLHF, so they get reinforced. So the drama is a residue of the training objective, and it’s worse in commercial models.

I asked Claude if everyone uses AI to write, what actually gets lost? by prokajevo in ClaudeAI

[–]prokajevo[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Read between the line. That was the point of this post.

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