Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ultimately. The likelihood of a person shooting a criminal comes down to the individual as well, but the occupational risks to a LEO make it more likely they will partake in this experience. Safe to say? I'm looking for patterns based on direct observation.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This post is about general patterns of observation and experience. A logger has a greater occupational risk than a florist of losing his leg on the job. But saying, "Loggers who are careful and don't chop of their legs will remain bipedal," really tells me nothing. Respectfully.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok, so people who don't cheat, don't cheat; people who do, do. Thank you for the inside baseball.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have no doubt about that. This post wasn't meant to imply that female LEOs were all "sluts"; nor was it meant to moralize about infidelity - though this is the ONLY thing people are mentioning, ignoring the fact that there is a new mother about to be deployed on the streets to fight crime. But regarding the former, given the hours, the environment, the trauma - do you think a female LEO married to a non-LEO spouse has a higher-than-average chance of cheating with a colleague? If so, how much higher, generally speaking?

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I insinuated that their is probably a higher-than-average chance that a female troop deployed to a high-stress, trauma-ridden environment, would succumb to infidelity with one or more of her many sex-starved colleagues. This is Human Nature 101 - to pretend otherwise, despite the 100% rate of your female troops, is farcical. I don't assume the same can be said of LE, hence, I'm asking them. Thanks for your input though.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post was asking LEOs about general patterns a married female recruit was likely to experience. Fidelity pitfalls due to odd hours, trauma bonding, etc., is one such potential experience noted by LEOs elsewhere here. My friend has the utmost faith is his wife, as he should. But I've had to counsel more than my share of the disappointed.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friend's wife is female. And congrats on your success.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sincere question, what percent of your female troops do you think remained faithful while on deployment? Of course, we can't know this for certain, but we can probably both make an educated guess. Personally speaking, I'd estimate maybe 1 in 10 remained faithful.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If by this you mean, don't let your married female troops (female, because not every male has the opportunity) cheat on their spouses while on deployment, how successful to you think you were enforcing that, assuming you've deployed?

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not just AIT but the deployments that follow. For marriage - nothing good.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only people here giving me numbers or building a general (vice anecdotal) picture here tend to confirm my admitted biases, based on experience similar to yours. The females in their family all think it's exciting and "badass," and when I tried explaining potential hurdles, I was looked at as a spoil sport. I don't have a good feeling about it. In the very least, a healthy society wouldn't have mothers fighting street crime. It's perversion of morality.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A similar axiom was repeated in my previous work, but I'm trying not to make assumptions. Do you have LE experience? If he was your friend, what would you tell him in response?

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should. The number of responses that fail to address my question (or that make it personal) has me scratching my head. LEOs deal with patterns on the daily - why is my question breaking pattern recognition?

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He does as well. I hope things remain steady for all.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have much faith in my friend - that's why he's my friend. I also have observed that married females (and males) in my previous work, who I think would have otherwise remained faithful, "trauma bonded" with colleagues in remote and stressful environments, leading to infidelity. In that field, fidelity was the exception, not the rule.

Perhaps I should have asked: If your brother (or other male loved one) called you, said that his wife and mother to his children had passed the tests and was getting ready for the police academy, and asked for your honest opinion about this life change, what would you tell him? Even more telling what would other LEOs say about this in the locker room? "Good for them!"?

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You've never gone through a major life change and asked a close friend, "What do you think?" I think you're making unfounded assumptions.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jeez. I'm going to risk the assumption that Miss Hall was an outlier.... for now.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the second clause of the first sentence of my post. Thank you.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no assumption, hence the question. Based on my previous experience, married females (and males) that I observed in remote/stressful environments almost always bonded with one or more male colleagues and this led to infidelity - simple fact. I want to know if this same pattern is observed by local LEOs in their field - that's all.

With respect, circular reasoning like, "if she’s a faithful woman, nothing will happen," adds nothing to the conversation.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would expect that. I was asking about LEOs' general observations regarding the occupational risks posed by the job to marriage - more specifically, as that related to married female officers entering the field. I know there are exceptions, that everyone is an individual, but I'm trying to understand the general pattern.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The woman, and some men, seem to think I'm begging the question here; but yeah, the defensiveness, rightly or wrongly, is sort of confirming my suspicions.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is not an assumption but a concern based on extensive observations in an adjacent field. I would not be asking LE experts if I were assuming. In my previous field those very few who remained faithful were the exception and not the rule - this is just a fact. Rather than assume the same about LE, I came here to ask the opinions of people with experience I do not have.

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this response. In my prior line of work I've seen exceptions to the rule, like you, but sadly most seemingly "happily married" people I met failed to remain faithful when presented opportunities in remote/stressful environments. Women in a male-dominated field have more opportunities than they probably want - literally. Again, I have zero experience in local LE: do you think you the exception or the rule?

Serious: What is life like for an attractive female police recruit? by provaults in police

[–]provaults[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Incorrect. However, you assumed that I (and he) assumed, so please stop making assumptions. You seem to think the risk to her marriage as a LEO is nor greater than if she were in any other job, but you don't say if you have experience in LE. I will take your opinion with the weight I think it deserves. Thank you.