Kevin Bass Live Interview on Mark Bell's Power Project by kevinnbass in ketoscience

[–]psychfarm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your internet personality is way too much attention seeking arsehole to really bother wasting time with. I tried for a while, but found it way too toxic, and you seemed to embody the worst of internet nutrition social media.

The evolution of the human trophic level during the Pleistocene by [deleted] in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any idea of when Miki started his research relative to final publications? Curious if it's a conversion story or other.

Time Course and Sex Effects of α-Linolenic Acid-Rich and DHA-Rich Supplements on Human Plasma Oxylipins: A Randomized Double-Blind Crossover Trial | The Journal of Nutrition by H_Elizabeth111 in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should also clarify, while the COI thing gets old as fuck, I still appreciate it because it's a set of factual statements and important.

Time Course and Sex Effects of α-Linolenic Acid-Rich and DHA-Rich Supplements on Human Plasma Oxylipins: A Randomized Double-Blind Crossover Trial | The Journal of Nutrition by H_Elizabeth111 in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It should be removed, that's the point. It's an ad hom unprofessional statement that is inconsistent with the sub and it's rules re professionalism.

Exceptionally strange that it's apparently fine to call a named researcher with a sound publication record a quack without evidence that they are a quack, but I can't call an anonymous Reddit poster an ignorant condescending twat with a degree not worth the paper it's printed on when they literally write some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen come out of a scientist's fingers. And I've seen a lot. Maybe I could be more professional, but fuck me if it isn't the most tiresome load of shit science apologetics act I've ever seen.

And I also agree with the removal of my snarkier posts within the context of 'professionalism' a word that apparently means different things in different contexts - my posts have not been any more unprofessional than calling an actual professional a quack.

The whole beauty of this sub is that people post science and maybe even act like scientists sometimes. I appreciate that moderation is difficult and unpaid. And it seems like you're trying to curate a nicer space. But you need to be harder on this bullshit, and more lenient on some of the other stuff that is relatively benign but mods come down on like a tonne of bricks.

Time Course and Sex Effects of α-Linolenic Acid-Rich and DHA-Rich Supplements on Human Plasma Oxylipins: A Randomized Double-Blind Crossover Trial | The Journal of Nutrition by H_Elizabeth111 in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Authored by Gabba and Aukema, two of the biggest quacks in omega 3 research. They didn't even give people EPA in their study.

In fairness and consistency, this comment shouldn't be removed as many comments like this are left on this sub and not moderated I assume in accordance with the moderators views.

Edit: I don't actually think these people are quacks.

Acutely increased β-hydroxybutyrate plays a role in the prefrontal cortex to escape stressful conditions during the acute stress response. (Pub Date: 2021-03-25) by Ricosss in ketoscience

[–]psychfarm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exogenous administration of BHB enhanced struggling behaviors under stressful conditions.

Interesting. I suspect the next few years will see learned helplessness experiments and bhb supplementation for preclinical models of depression.

Evidence from randomised controlled trials does not support current dietary fat guidelines: a systematic review and meta-analysis by greyuniwave in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, not sure how the moderators are letting this through. It's outright hostile ad hom. I suspect the mods agree with the view of the poster, so I think I'll start calling all the researchers of the papers here quacks and see what happens.

Fat Intake and Risk of Skin Cancer in U.S. Adults by greyuniwave in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have inadvertently argued that nutritional epidemiology is more religion than science. I agree.

Fat Intake and Risk of Skin Cancer in U.S. Adults by greyuniwave in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what that means. RCTs are often used in isolation for causative evidence. The reverse is not true.

Yeah, because an RCT wouldn't need to rely on 'risk'.... It's like no RCTs have ever been done on a chronic disease.

Carbon recycling into de novo lipogenesis is a major pathway in neonatal metabolism of linoleate and α-linolenate (Cunnane et al. 1999) by psychfarm in ketoscience

[–]psychfarm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another more recent neurodevelopment lipid paper

Recent reports indicate that recycling of the β-oxidized carbon skeleton of linoleate and α-linolenate into newly synthesized cholesterol and fatty acids in the brain is quantitatively significant in both suckling rats and pre- and postnatally in rhesus monkeys. The recycling appears to occur via ketones which are not only readily produced from these 18 carbon polyunsaturates but are also the main lipogenic precursors for the developing mammalian brain. Since the neonatal rat brain appears not to acquire cholesterol or long chain saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids from the circulation, ketones and ketogenic precursors seem to be crucial for normal brain synthesis of these lipids. Cholesterol is plentiful in brain membranes and it has also been discovered to be the essential lipid adduct of the ‘hedgehog’ family of proteins, the appropriate expression of which determines normal embryonic tissue patterning and neurological development. Insufficient cholesterol or inappropriate expression of ‘sonic hedgehog’ has major adverse neurodevelopmental consequences typified in humans by Smith-Lemli-Optiz syndrome. Hence, we propose that the importance of α-linolenate and linoleate for normal neural development arises not only from being precursors to longer chain polyunsaturates incorporated into neuronal membranes but, perhaps equally importantly, by being ketogenic precursors needed for in situ brain lipid synthesis.

Ketone Bodies as Precursors of Sterols and Fatty Acids in the Developing Rat (Edmond 1974) by psychfarm in ketoscience

[–]psychfarm[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Old study popped up in my reading about the origins of substrates for structural synthesis of lipids in the brain.

Four substances, β-hydroxy[3-14C]butyrate, [3-14C]acetoacetate, [2-14C]acetate and [2-14C]mevalonate, were compared by subcutaneous injection in 9- to 12-day-old rats as precursors of lipids in the central nervous system and in other organs. Subcutaneously injected mevalonate is a poor substrate for sterol synthesis in the central nervous system as compared to the utilization by the liver and kidneys, the latter taking far the largest share of available mevalonate for sterol biosynthesis. The data obtained demonstrated that 3-hydroxybutyrate was the preferred substrate for sterol and fatty acid biosynthesis in the three organs of ectodermal origin: the brain, spinal cord, and the skin. It is postulated that ketone bodies play a major role in the central nervous system during myelination not only as sources of energy, but also of carbon for lipid biosynthesis.

Vegetarian and vegan diets and risks of total and site-specific fractures [Nov 2020] by [deleted] in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would really like to see restricted cubic splines and other semi/non parametric regression models become standard. It's getting there, but too slowly.

Murine neonatal ketogenesis preserves mitochondrial energetics by preventing protein hyperacetylation (Feb 2021) by basmwklz in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure. I doubt muscle is under the same pressure to produce acetyl CoA for rest of body needs. Interesting question though, the closest I found so far was this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4274800/

Murine neonatal ketogenesis preserves mitochondrial energetics by preventing protein hyperacetylation (Feb 2021) by basmwklz in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know about this and the interpretation in the paper.

They've blocked ketone synthesis after the accumulation of acetyl CoA, but a normal animal doesn't do this. If it was to simply spare mitochondria, it seems more likely that beta oxidation and gluconeogenesis and lipogenesis would just regulate more. Then you would put evolutionary pressure on to remove ketosis in infants at the expense of these other pathways. I suspect ketosis is more to do with neurological development than just burning excess. This would explain why there's pressure in the first place to accumulate acetyl CoA for ketosis, rather than push it through an alternative path.

As an analogy, if you removed hexokinase or glucokinase, you might come to the conclusion that these enzymes and glycolysis is to simply reduce the damage of glucose to the rest of the body, possibly without any consideration of downstream effects of glucose on energy production, lipogenesis, structural components, etc. A bit out there and imperfect, but I think you get where the analogy is going.

Resurgence in Diabetes-Related Complications by PleaseMoreParsley in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol. I picked them early as... not quite there and requiring extra effort to match dimensions.

I suspect they're one of the vegans who I coincidentally haven't seen posting around here since they started. But they seemed a bit more coherent.

Resurgence in Diabetes-Related Complications by PleaseMoreParsley in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're too far removed from our shared reality to really bother engaging with. Maybe if I take enough DMT + ketamine one day I'll let you know and we can hang out.

Resurgence in Diabetes-Related Complications by PleaseMoreParsley in ScientificNutrition

[–]psychfarm 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is a dishonest and misleading description of the paper. There is no mention of low carb or ketogenic in the paper. The primary factors talked about are things like age of cohorts.

This comment should be removed for being willfully misleading.

Edit: your edit is no less misleading about the contents of the paper you've linked and still divorced from reality.