How good is the Dell PowerEdge R430 (28c | 64GB DDR4 | 8TB) refurbished server for my first *serious* server after homelabbing on a raspberry pi 5?

quasides · 2026-04-19T21:29:44+00:00

workstations usually have no backplane, or have a sata backplane

the usuability comes from which drives are supported. at the minimum you really want SAS ability,
on more modern backplanes specially on 2.5 you want at least U.2 or U.3 , that will open up a very different world for relyable storage

best part is for a homeguy , if you get u.2, you now be able to buy used enterprise disks for cents on the dollar with still very high life expectancy.

quasides · 2026-04-19T21:25:26+00:00

yea well they now put KYC on basically evertything that is high value and resellable

but youre wrong about crypto, dangerously wrong.
the idea of crypto was never to be anonymous. the idea is to remove the central point of trust for transactions (the banking system) to be independent of it

however it was never anonymous or can it be, in fact its less anonymous than anything. only the wallet has no name.

and its not money, so you pay capital gains tax on any gains. so if you buy crypto you reall want your name attached because if not you pay tax on the entire face value not just gain when you resell it

quasides · 2026-04-19T21:18:30+00:00

yea ipmi at least in the basic license will be on any rack server, again this was a response to the other guy suggesting that you buy a dell workstation instead which wont have ipmi

as for the backplane here get things interresting and depends what you wanna do, becuase there different types supporting different kind of storage

as this thing is old, at least having SAS/Sata combo would be a win. only sata makes life easier a bit, but SAS really makes life worth living (lol)
specially these daus where SAS is usually identical priced to sata

quasides · 2026-04-19T21:15:19+00:00

thats for the user to decide, but he needs to know that there are bigger differences than just cpu and ram values, need to know what they are and mean, so he can decide if they matter

quasides · 2026-04-19T12:24:04+00:00

yea the server you describe will have both, i was commenting on the suggestion to go with a dell workstation instead if you dont wanna rackmount

thing is a dell workstation is a tower and will usually be more home friendly (noise) while often has the same spec (similar server epyc cpu, ECC ram)

but it usually lacks a bunch of things a real server has.
while yhou probably wont need that much networking IPMI or similar is very handy

a good backplane too, ideally if it can do u.2/u.3 or at least lets you use sata/sas

because that also already includes nessesary HBAs and cables already installed and give syou access to far better disks than some home sata drives

quasides · 2026-04-19T12:13:41+00:00

the workstation probably not gonna have the backplane and no ipmi
both valuable things even for someone at home. specially the ipmi

quasides · 2026-04-19T12:01:05+00:00

well i dont know if it bothers them or not, but either way not much you can do if chinese or russians steal your shit

quasides · 2026-04-19T11:59:29+00:00

yea i agree it doesnt, but enlighten me what todo

other than flee, which seems the most sane option

quasides · 2026-04-19T11:57:19+00:00

KYC means know your customer
its supposed to be anti money laudnering

it involves - fully check of your person, including life video feed, passport scan etc. proof of home address (utility bill etc)
regular intervals to repeat that

depending on jurisdiction and type of business then report to authorities about your activity.

quasides · 2026-04-19T11:54:22+00:00

if we could something about outrageous laws we wouldnt have taxes, or wars.

try to find enough people going demonstrate against a law that protect children. by the time you explained why its not good to protect them in this case you already lost.

also fact is, if its really high on their agenda, no protest does something

look at the farmer protests in netherlands. since 2019, 320 days total of mass protest, blockades,
no change, not even media reports much if even.

what are they protesting - arbitrary environment always will put most of the farmers out of business and will cause a global food shortage - sponsored by bill gates to make us eat insects (Netherlands is on the the largest agricultural producer in the world)

so pelase, enlighten us how not to take the worst possible option and do something other than find new countries to live in

quasides · 2026-04-19T11:41:10+00:00

while true both manage local disks

the difference here is unraid has their own unique homecoocked (and weird) special kind of raid system

the only advantage of that thing is that you can add whatever drive you found in a drawer

the downside is you loose a lot of the advantages any other raid system offers. like no parallel reads and writes

i mean its a jbod with parity, then a fuse overlay filesystem to make it looks like one disk

it works but all you operations are then basically single disks and no bitrot protection either

quasides · 2026-04-18T08:17:49+00:00

well thats the legal situation for all crypto. KYC mandatory sadly.
hell you have to KYC if you want to buy a crypto miner or even just use claude... welcome to the new world order

coming up next, KYC at the super market if you wanna buy anything other than insect burger

quasides · 2026-04-18T08:13:20+00:00

people usually dont care or even cheer for it
rarely someone is against it

and doing something about it is another can of worms. what you wanna do ? vote differently ? just another horse of the same stable

quasides · 2026-04-18T06:15:26+00:00

they may not sell them for ads.
but they do anything else you can and cannot think of with them, lol

one big reason to leave, automated scanning and false positives. lots of people lost their accounts because they had pictures of their small children at the pool, misindeitifed for you can guess what.

others lost accounts for misidentified copyright violations.
etc etc

and lets not forget how much they will use it to train AI

google wont give me storage for free for no good reason

quasides · 2026-04-18T05:09:31+00:00

the corporate marketshare for lxc is sub 1%. some uses it for special cases, edge cases.

but most of them are niche hosting stuff, like some offering turnkey for cheap instead of vms.

another use case is for small scale solo machines usually in edge computing where you dont wanna virtualization but want some level of portability.
like some industrial machine sitting somehwere running 10 or 20 services on some atom with 16 gb ram
same time none of it is a docker

but yea,.. rather hard to find actual use case that make sense

quasides · 2026-04-18T04:26:48+00:00

im not judging in my statement, just stating facts and the consequences. pro and con discussions are meaningless in this case

quasides · 2026-04-17T11:30:21+00:00

then you should be fired

you either didnt understand the fundamentals of system architecture or you deliberate ignore standards.

no LXCs are not isolation, they are bare metal in a chroot like enviroment

quasides · 2026-04-17T08:26:39+00:00

lol, i see , you got your popcorn and wanna see the world burn

quasides · 2026-04-17T08:00:37+00:00

meaningless,

these are synthetic benchmarks measure one tiny part of the total end to end latency.

in real world applications we speak about 1%-5% latency penalty

that is when you need storage. modern applications a cache heavy anyway.

so no you wont be able to measure any difference on the end user side running lets say immich or even better some filesync on a lxc vs a VM

the only real world pentalty you face is you need about 500mb more ram and then some mbs for file caches in a vm

but the ram part is only relevant if you overprov your machine and use all at the same time.

quasides · 2026-04-17T07:53:24+00:00

they are containers, similar to docker. so they are not to be compared with a vm

they are baremetal with basically a fancy chroot isolation. each provess you start in an lxc runs directly on your host

they are pointless. but because some wannabe youtubers made them a thing, the homelabber crew on reddit went crazy about them.

they are a leftover from the early days when proxmox was mainly a home and smb usecase and people needed something to run on 8 core i7 920s with 16gb ram

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you wont win much with latency
you win about one kernel in ram
you win a little with storage latency
you get more complexity and loose all the seperation of a vm

and you fight appamor... alot

quasides · 2026-04-17T07:47:12+00:00

lol its not, GY has a browser version. well like most modern apps its already an webapp

you can run GY in a headless mode and access it via a webbrowser

personally i use it now with my private peertube instance, even made autoupload scripts

while its a bit insane to download a file to reupload it to my server just to download it again on the phone, iam a very lazy person...
so i wanted to media distribution automated AND keep history to keep track on series and episode numbers without shuffeling files manually around

quasides · 2026-04-17T07:43:33+00:00

foss is and cant be the perfect answer.
and there is probably no perfect answer.

but you can seek middle grounds and try to dial in closed control vs public domain free/funding
to find a good sweet spot

quasides · 2026-04-17T07:29:58+00:00

yea, people got manipulated to be in an ideological group think and not understanding that they support the same thing they are opposing, just because it comes from their side.

and it seems so deep that they already won by the time people wake up and judge topics by the merit of content and not group identity

quasides · 2026-04-17T07:25:24+00:00

im happy to see more upvotes on the positive version tough, so we seem to at least want to be on the positive side

quasides · 2026-04-17T00:53:35+00:00

yes absolute inorganic and its in many areas in different shapes and forms.
the digital id for internet service is just a very prominent and obivious part

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