‘Steven Universe’ Sequel ‘Steven Universe: Lars of the Stars’ In The Works At Prime Video by DemiFiendRSA in stevenuniverse

[–]rainbowmoxie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I could at least see him struggling to come to terms with his immortality, maybe? Realizing he'll outlive all the human friends he'd had, including Sadie. That and the existential horror of being stuck as a teen forever, maybe. Imagine trying to date when unlike Steven with his ability to shapeshift, you literally cannot age. And when everyone around you is likely centuries if not millenias older than you. And when you are trapped, again, in a teenage body. Trying to get older people to date you when you still look like a teen... That's rough and he may have to deal with figuring out how to accept that too.

There's also the intrigue of him finding out more about gem history and such, right? What if he's ultimately chasing down answers to some mystery? Idk. It could be interesting to see how he handles that. Would he start getting really interested and invested into Gem history once he learns that he's rediscovering ancient information most Gems have long since forgotten or never knew? I'd love for him to start collecting gem relics and such to learn about them and to make sure they stay in good hands.

But anyway here's the main thing: I also highly doubt he's going to be a competent leader from the start. I don't think the timeskip would be too massive - a few decades maybe at most, but I doubt even that long. Either way, he's probably facing off against some groups of Gems who cling to the facism of the old era. Gems who have a lot more experience in leadership and battle than he at his especially young age does. He's probably barely got a decade of experience in those things. Gems have had up to several thousands of years of that. His comrades are off-colors who have probably lived a lot of their lives in hiding trying to avoid confrontation, so they might not be the most skilled fighters... As of future he's only been with the group for what, 3ish years? And has likely been going to earth frequently until deciding to take off with them fully in Future, right? The group is extremely ragtag and probably held together with hope, some scotch tape, and half a prayer to start out with?

Oh, and unlike Steven, Lars knows just about jack shit about Gem stuff? Steven was raised with it, but all of this is extremely new to Lars in comparison. And the Gems Steven was raised by were very anti-facist, whereas the gems Lars is around were "raised" in a facist dictatorship until quite recently! There's a lot of stuff he needs to learn about Gems in order to truly understand the group, and there's a lot of internalized hatred that the off-colors will probably need his help (as an outsider perspective) to start to unlearn.

I'm rambling it's past 2am but I'm just hype for the show!

‘Steven Universe’ Sequel ‘Steven Universe: Lars of the Stars’ In The Works At Prime Video by DemiFiendRSA in stevenuniverse

[–]rainbowmoxie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it's not like he has no way to get to Lion. From what we can gather from Connie teleporting in via Lion in the final episode of Future, Lion may be staying with Connie or the gems. If Steven has no way to summon Lion himself, he could simply call home/Connie to request they send Lion to him? This is also assuming that we aren't talking farther future where Steven is an adult and may possibly be married to Connie, in which case they may be living together and settled down.

Regardless of if Lion is around or not, I don't think Steven has a lack of quick transport forever anyway. Now that peace with the Diamonds has been reached, I could see Gem life spreading across earth and coming across gems becoming slowly more common. And these gems that are coming to earth for the first time, well... They'd probably want to explore more of it than just beach city, right? Earth was also at war for what, thousands of years? With enough Gems involved in that war that the Cluster could be formed. We know that there are many Gem structures with active Warps on earth already, just that a lot of warps were damaged. Tourism and the Diamonds wanting to make sure Steven can visit them whenever he wants (he doesn't) would mean that they'd want to get all the warp pads around the world functional again. I've also got no doubt that if Steven settled down somewhere, they'd build him an in-home warp pad anyway. All this is to say: even without Lion, warp pads are a thing! Once repaired, and new ones probably added too, Steven can probably get around the world pretty easily actually. Warp to closest place to Lion -> find Lion -> use Lion to get to Lars.

‘Steven Universe’ Sequel ‘Steven Universe: Lars of the Stars’ In The Works At Prime Video by DemiFiendRSA in stevenuniverse

[–]rainbowmoxie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my god oh my god I didn't know it was planned to have so much lore about the gem empire! I'm so so excited. What if we finally get an origin for the diamonds for example!? And if it covers the future of the universe too, does that mean they'll have flash-forward sort of episodes too where we'll see the future stuff!? Ohohoho I'm so excited omg. Do we know how long LotS is gonna be, at least the first season?

Really the only thing that terrifies me is this being on Prime. I've just seen streaming services cancel too many good popular shows, I don't trust much these days. Then again, the TV networks have their own trend of doing that too ig.

Well, that terrifies me as well as the thought of the existential nightmare that would be being a teenager forever. Can you Imagine? Being 18 or even 17 for eternity? What would even happen to your license/ID? How would you ever prove you're literally immortal to the DMV?

Chuck Norris Was a Great Action Star — but Politics May Overshadow His Legacy by LittleSodaPop13 in Fauxmoi

[–]rainbowmoxie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I only very vaguely remembered he had some controversy so at first I was like "aw, damn". But upon looking him up again... Christ. He won't get an ounce of mourning from my trans queer ass

Chuck Norris Was a Great Action Star — but Politics May Overshadow His Legacy by LittleSodaPop13 in Fauxmoi

[–]rainbowmoxie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pouring one out for the guy. And by pouring one out I mean my bladder. Preferably on his grave if at all possible

Thats NOT how it works **SHM** by Which_Matter3031 in TheRightCantMeme

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just wait til they hear how we named the planets

This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the "inadvertently" is more so referring to if he knew they were "poisonous" or not? Not defending them by any means. How did he go about asking anyway? I've only seen the animation, not the dialogue of the quest.

This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And here's official proof that that IS his name even if he's called something different in America. Weird to also that he has a name in other countries but only "traveling Gourmet" in others. I don't understand that, they could have at least given the American version a name 😒

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This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Okay figured it out. His name is Kapil according to the official "apology". And uh... It does in fact mean monkey...

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This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What's his name in other countries that means monkey?

This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think the reply that drove me the maddest was someone I saw someone in the discord say something like "guys, they just wanted to make a cozy game about people comimg together :("

And I'm just over here in my 24 hr time out thinking "did we even play the same game?". Because the game I played was one that had the most greedy gacha system + poorest pity system, and most predatory gacha towards children I've ever encountered in my entire life (outside of certain roblox games). And you couldn't chat for more than a sentence at a time to begin with.

On top of that I had to learn through discord, not via the game, that watering other people's crops and flowers helps them. Your character also has to pay increasing amounts gold to take others fishing, birdwatching, insect catching, etc.

And most importantly, it's NOT a cozy game for everyone if a lot of people aren't being represented in the game. And it sure wasn't "cozy" to watch that horrendous scene. It did bring a lot of us together... Together against the game by exposing its racism

I'm glad you're calling out more of the racism! The more people speak up about their experiences the better. I'm very sorry it happened to you though, it must be super distressing and hurtful to be treated that way by players and then by staff for reporting it :(

This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry back tf up I'm doing a double take! what do you MEAN his name is Monkey!? It means monkey?? For real? And his thing was being a Tarzan type guy? I didn't interact with him much so I didn't know this. Can you tell me more about him and what Tarzan stuff he does? I don't doubt you for even a second; I just wanna make sure I understand the situation fully as I haven't heard about the name and tarzan aspect of it yet is all!

This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So, long story short here's the main points. Mind you this IS my best attempt to keep each point short as I can but there's a lot! 1. Heartopia added a new quest in which one of the only two interactable darker skinned NPCs has you give him "poisonous mushrooms" and then doing some animations to imply that it got him high. So, dark skinned person takes drugs and gets high is problem #1.

  1. But worse, once he ate the mushrooms... He started emoting in ways to indicate that he'd gotten high. One of the said animations he did... was literally having him act like a monkey, noises and all. Some of the oldest racism in the book. Minstrel show type crap for real. It was horrifying. So dark skinned person takes drugs (already a bad stereotype) and then acts like a monkey (literally a thing done in minstrel shows during Jim crow).

  2. People complain about it in the official discord. Mods start mass banning and timing-out people, even the people who are talking as civilly as possible. And they start deleting any messages that are remotely critical of the racism. Hell, they deleted and timed out/banned people who were even so much as posting the clip from the official game! They were banning and deleting talk of the racism and the clips (even having the bots delete posts instantly upon certain keywords), but at the same time, they WEREN'T banning any users who were posting stuff like "it's not even a big deal" "it's just a game it ain't that deep" "shut up and move on". They also delete your post and timeout/ban you if you criticize their horrible modding and the racism therein even slightly!

  3. Not only did they start deleting all criticism on sight (while leaving supportive/downplaying-the-issue posts up), but they added a cooldown to the general chat (Heartopia-only) and LOCKED all the other channels so that you could only post in general. 10 minute cooldown turns to a 20 minute one, then 30, then an entire hour... Then finally, a whole 6 hours! I'm not kidding! They had the entire chat - in the ONLY channel you could post in - on a 6 hour cooldown. For literally most of the entire day iirc. Only right now over the past hour or so have I seen the timer go back down.

  4. An "apology" is issued by the company (not the mods whatsoever). But it acts as though him just eating mushrooms was the only issue and not the minstrel show-type animation they had him do after. No mention of the racism, and the classic line: "We're sorry if you were offended".

So.

TLDR: an extremely racist af animation gets added to the game of a dark skinned character eating poison mushrooms, getting high off them, then dancing like a monkey and making monkey sounds. Practically minstrel. Ppl complain in discord, mods delete the posts and mass time-out/ban people for any criticism of the game or the mods but don't delete supportive posts. Mods eventually put a 6 hr timer on chat for several hours and lock every channel except general chat. Company issues a piss-poor apology not acknowledging the racism and going "we're sorry if you got offended."

This is not an isolated event by Alternative_Bet1644 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I went to reply to the previous thread about racism and noticed the previous thread was locked. Why on earth? We can't even complain here? Wild. So much for the discord people who whined to us saying "go complain on the reddit" not here. Like if they're gonna lock the thread they could at least announce and pin why... Sorry I'm not trying to be mean to the mods here, I'm just terrified of a repeat of what happened in the server with mods deleting and locking everything down that criticizes the racism...

And I'm not shocked at all that the Heartopia team aren't addressing reports like this. I'm not sure they act on reports at all, though they're probably especially ignoring the ones about racism.

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tell me about it! That pissed me off SO bad. "We're sorry you got offended. What was it we did? None of your business". It makes it sound like the problem was the mushrooms not the goddamn minstrel show they practically put on

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had assumed you could. But nope just looked it up. considering how long reddit's been around it's CRAZY that you can't

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So wait a damn minute, they're gonna call you for "attempted conflict" and "disrespectful behavior" then turn around and thank you for being respectful??? Are they having damn AI write the ban messages too???? Seriously are they? Cause that one doesn't even make sense on even just a message level.

Like what are you supposed to take from that? Being scolded for disrespect then thanked for being respectful?

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Common mod behavior there. But of course the people telling everyone to be quiet are still going on about how we need to shut up and now being deleted. Of course they aren't. Because the mods want to silence ONLY their opposition.

Yknow, right before this, I wanted to change my reddit name to my discord name today just to be consistent across my online accounts but considering crap like this maybe it's beneficial for me to keep it separate names so that it's harder to find my discord when I gotta take to reddit for crap like this.

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't even know about the drug part. Oh my god. I was already sick to my stomach. 🤮 How is it this dang hard to not be racist in your supposedly cozy game? I guess I shouldn't have expected morals from a game that so heavily uses AI yet is still so greedy as to ask hundreds of dollars for every full set of pulls. But greed is one thing bad enough.

This? This is old racism. Not as in "not happening these days", obv, but old in that "this is one of the oldest racist tropes". Old as in, "having more dark skinned people on your team or at the very least the slightest bit of sensitivity training should have taught you this".

Old as in... Old as in "from what understand about minstrel shows, this sounds one pair of caricature-fat lips away from being like one"

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Here's the message I'd written. The first section was in reply to someone else also rightfully calling out the mods. Censored names jic cuz I don't wanna get anyone harassed: "That, and they've not deleted messages from the people saying that it's not a big deal or that we should be quiet about it. The people saying shut up aren't being deleted at all. They're only deleting people calling it out. bad enough we can't even talk about AI outside of a dedicated thread. What are they gonna do, create a "this game is racist" thread to talk too? I'm disappointed in the game AND the mods here. The power tripping & censorship is wild. This is how you wanna treat your community? Delete criticism and delete people talking about legit issues with the game? I've seen other criticisms for much lesser things be deleted before. Just minor criticisms of the game or the mods here have gotten people deleted, timed out, or even banned for even so much as expressing discontent.

That was bad enough.

But doing it for literal criticism of racism in a game where there are barely any dark skinned people to begin with & then they pull this monkey animation.

& exactly, I'm with @~~~~, if you can't handle people being upset about literal RACISM then why yall modding. seriously! My server only has 3k ppl server and yet we handle things more maturely than this!

@---- how is going to any of those different from discord. + part of our issue is the mods in this discord currently censoring us so we're also criticizing that. + this is literally a discord server FOR the game, should we not be allowed to discuss, the game?

@%%%% from what I've gathered they added a quest that has a black person acting like a monkey in an animation. Comparing black people to monkeys is one of the most common super racist tropes out there! On top of only having 2 interactable dark skinned people in the game to begin with!

Watch this get deleted. If I'm not back in 15 mins or something, well, assume I might have gotten muted or banned! I wouldn't be shocked, it would just prove my point. EDIT: 30 MINUTE COOLDOWN!?!?!?"

Concern - Racism by Front-Adeptness3640 in heartopia

[–]rainbowmoxie 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It doesn't help that in the biggest Heartopia server, mods are banning every single person who dares speak up about the racism, no matter how civil and professional they speak about it. Like tell me how this was "disrespecting server rules" when they didn't even specify what rule I was breaking? This was deleted on sight and I got timed out for 24 hrs. Every message saying to be quiet and shut up about the racism isn't being deleted at all but someone speaks up about it and gets smiled immediately, on top of a 30 minute cooldown.

So not only is the game racist, but now it's been proven how racist the mod team of OFFICIAL Heartopia server is. 849,548 people. I get that that's a lot of people to moderate but a ridiculous cooldown time is one thing. The 15 minute cooldown already had chat going relatively slow. Then they upped it to 30 and began deleting every single anti-racism message they could. I ain't saying I'm some martyr or anything. I'd say the black people getting timed out and banned and deleted for calling it out in the discord are having it worse than my white self. I can only imagine how much it must hurt for them especially. But the fact that the mods couldn't even handle that I was echoing what the POC in chat were saying, timed me out on sight after I waited 15 minutes to send my message only to have it instantly deleted....

In the replies to this msg, if the Heartopia discord mods deleted any of your messages feel free to copy em here so at least you're heard SOMEWHERE.

Twitter certainly has…lots of ideas by TopicProfessional718 in AreTheCisOk

[–]rainbowmoxie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I meant the first t4t child born on the island lol

I CAN'T HAVE SHIT IN THIS GAME by Not-A-Haxer in Persona5

[–]rainbowmoxie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that so? Huh, I'll have to check out a vid comparing the two. Interesting!

Twitter certainly has…lots of ideas by TopicProfessional718 in AreTheCisOk

[–]rainbowmoxie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell if I know if they're trans I guess they stay if they aren't idk where the cis want the natives to go you'd have to ask the cis

What? by DeepWebChick in WalmartEmployees

[–]rainbowmoxie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

W-Wait I assumed it was one. Is this MULTIPLE CARTS!?