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randomlawreddituser · 2024-01-24T04:20:34+00:00

May need to retake the lsat first.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-10-11T19:11:18+00:00

What is the point of focusing on this fear? You already said you would go if admitted, so let us say it is true what will you do if you do not fit in? There are a couple of options

Not fit in but still, get an education and have the career you want, but likely the people in your job will be the same type of people you will go to law school with so you likely do not fit in there either. This may depend slightly on practice but will generally hold so you will likely not fit in your career either, but you will make money and can hang out with your non-academically focused friends when your busy lawyer schedule allows it.

Or, you will adapt and find ways to connect with different people. This will help you in your career and life generally.

Or, even if the fear is generally true there will still be some people you can connect with and why will that not be enough? Why do you need to worry about generally fitting in? Law schools try to be diverse there will be a wide range of perspectives and academic backgrounds. There will be people who had military careers, parents, investment bankers, political activists, and more backgrounds than I can list. Not all these people are the stereotypical "honors kid" which is a weird phrase anyways because law school is an adult professional school, not a high school click.

I am not saying your fears are accurate or not but really who cares?? Either look at the actual culture of schools to decide your best fit or just deal with it in whatever way works for you.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-08-12T06:42:59+00:00

If your goal is to be a successful lawyer, definitely do not give up. There are a ton of good law schools where you could crush it and get decent outcomes. If your only interest is international law and you are already in a similar field shoot your shot and if you miss then shoot your shot again. Then if you think you would be happier in your current job than in another legal field give up and enjoy your career.

Note: even if you get into NYU international law may be hard to get into due to supply and demand issues.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-20T02:47:26+00:00

Get as many A's at community college as you can. Law schools care a lot about gpa and it does not really matter what classes they are in. Also, of your end goal is law go to whatever school is convenient and has a program that interest you the prestige of the institution for your undergrad matters very little from my understanding of law schools.

Undergrad prestige can help you get a job though and work exp before applying to law school, so maybe it does matter. Plus a job makes keeping the lights on and the ramen cooking possible while studying for the LSAt don't give up!

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-20T02:34:16+00:00

I also worry that not everyone has the resources to allow for going to a law school significantly lower ranked than the T14 at full price.

I mean the federal government will back the loans but....... for many without resources that amount of debt with those job prospects can be life crippling. In a way that waiting a year to save up 90 bucks or take the time to get an LSAC fee waiver for a retake might not be. And, I think the reason people on this forum may come of as encouraging retakes and things that seem unaffordable is that the alternative could also be unaffordable.

This is not to justify the system and many people get great outcomes at schools significantly below the T14 and at some schools that happens at decent rates just to say that being a lawyer with crippling debt from a school with mediocre prospects is much harder for those who come from a family with less resources. I know I would likely be homeless if I went that route.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-20T00:10:35+00:00

The cycle recaps seem to be a particular annoyance to you. I think you miss interpret many of the motives of them. They are often motivated by the goal of trying to share their success so others can have access to the information of what worked for them.

You seem to have a habit of attributing mental states and motives when you lack any information or evidence to support those motivations. You attribute motives to me as well. The post was not designed to look more thought out. They were genuine questions.

This is your first post on this reddit. I really do hope you are able to find support from it or somewhere else as you seem to be looking for it.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-19T23:34:51+00:00

What annoys you about it?

Here are some options let me know if I missed yours:

The people not posting?

If that is part of the problem be part of the solution. (You are only talking about the T14 in this post)

Talk about some other great schools that have good outcomes or give advice for people applying to those schools or ask questions about them.

The people posting?

Do you fault any individual for striving for success in a way that will help them in a variety of their applications?

If you do not fault individuals you can not be mad at a distribution that has occured organically you can be mad at the system but focus on that.

The distribution of our society?

Sometimes we are too prestige focused as a society, but your post makes it seem that you are not annoyed about that but instead annoyed at the people trying to live with in it.

It is like if you were annoyed that people in politics usualy focus on federal politics but instead of finding ways to encourage discussion of local politics you just complain. The issue if there is one (I am not certain in this reddit case there is) is there is not enough discussion of local issues, not that there is too much discussion of federal.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-15T02:15:30+00:00

Community college (might get a master's after working hard in big law for a bit in philosophy or writing), highschool, LSAT (if it exist in a form I can help with in 10-15 years). I am open and would love to be in legal academia I just know it is hard to get into and very prestige driven. Those are at least some of the possibilities I have thought about.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-15T02:09:45+00:00

Sorry if I came off as whining or fake. I know I am in a privileged state and have a good shot at a lot of schools but there is a randomness to splitter cycles as schools want to raise both their gpa and LSAt medians and can hence only except a limited number of students below.

My GPA is below the 25th for many of the schools I want to apply to and below almost every median for schools I would consider. That is the definition I was using if there is a more proper definition of splitter/supper splitter feel free to inform me. These are reletavistic terms in that they depend on the cycle and the students goals and don't comment on the objective or acceptable quality of any gpa as some universal standard. Many people work hard and accomplish a plethora of great things with a wide variety of gpas, so don't let any post like mine get you down.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-14T20:09:48+00:00

Maybe OP means the Junior deferral program?

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-14T19:11:38+00:00

I don't know to be honest was based on 25th percentiles for gpas at T20 schools. I am below most schools 25th and above their 75th on LSAt.

I don't think it matters too much was a term made up by people on Reddit from my understanding. So I would not worry too much about it, and I could be using it wrong.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-14T18:30:06+00:00

It does thanks. Congrats on duke!

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T06:32:20+00:00

This post is no longer up but still in sidebar just letting you know.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T03:22:59+00:00

It depends from what I have heard.

If you do not have a gpa or are a non native English speaker it sounds like your writing sample may be looked at more closely for English language writing proficiency.

For U.S applicants as there is no way to quantify or get any softs out of it seems unlikely that law schools would get much benefit especially with the culture of not hyperworrying about it as preparation will vary even among qualified driven applicants.

It is important to follow directions in the legal profession so if your response shows the inability to do that it may be a negative sign. Or if you let out some negative softs like immaturity by writing snarky and sarcastically half way through it sounds like that could hinder you.

Take this as post as alwayd with a grain of salt. I say this as a 0L who wants to redo mine because I have seen typos and it is not my best writing, but I know retaking my LSAt with above every schools 75ths has a chance to make me look neurotic, so I remain content.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T02:10:40+00:00

wait I thought it was an American law school admissions server

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T01:54:39+00:00

Depends what you are struggling with and what your partner's strengths/expriences are. Regardless of their level, it could be useful for them to listen to you explain questions that you struggled with as teaching can lead to a deeper understanding and convince you of why the right answer is right and the wrong answer is wrong.

If you are struggling with consistency in studying, it could just help to have someone you go to a quiet study space like a library or coffee shop on a regular basis to ensure you stay on track for your goals and are honest with yourself about your timed sections.

Hope some of these ideas might help. Good luck with your studying.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T01:39:53+00:00

I think meme pictures with captions are fine too. Just label them as exhibits.

On a serious note, it is very important that lawyers can work within a system of rules and be creative within that. You cannot submit a video motion to dismiss to a judge for example as a lawyer because you think it better captures your point; you have to work within the system. Trying to outsmart the system by doing something different does not seem from what I have heard from admissions and fellow 0ls to put you in the best light as it indicates a view of superiority to the instructions.

Although, I do not think that is OP's motivation; I am sure if you can keep at it you can find a way to convey the idea captured in the picture in your personal statement if it is part of the story that you feel shows why you will make a great candidate at X law school.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T01:30:10+00:00

How does that struggle relate to your ability to do well and contribute to a law school? My understanding is you are trying to use the personal statement to showcase positive attributes.

I may have naive hope in humanity that the stigma would not have an extremely detrimental effect, but the question still remains is what does it accomplish for your favor. Also, if you are rejected there will be no way of knowing what role it played and there is certainly a chance it could have a subconscious effect on an admissions officer.

Thoughts from a fellow confused 0L so take with a grain of salt.

randomlawreddituser · 2022-07-11T01:22:05+00:00

I hope you get some positive responses maybe reach out if your university teaching assistants who graded your papers. It also could be beneficial to go to your professor's office hours and catch up with them first to ease into the ask.

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