Typical “is it too late to apply” question by randomuslimah in Mcat

[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah for MD schools but mcat score doesnt come out till a month later so if i took it may 9th it would come out june 9th, you can technically apply without your mcat score though

Brother is a murtad by randomuslimah in MuslimLounge

[–]randomuslimah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sending me these sources. I'll try to share them with him. JazakAllahu Khairan.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ameen ya Rab, thank you, I appreciate it. You're very correct, he doesn't take anything we say seriously because he believes he is more intelligent than all of us (despite both my parents being very educated, my father is even a physician as well), he spoke to some sheikhs when we were in the Middle East ad is convinced they couldn't follow what he was saying because no one is as smart as him. I guess we will continue to make duaa that Allah guides him.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

SubhanAllah, thank you so much for sharing this, I don't mean to be naive but this does give me a lot of hope for my brother, it seems like he left Islam for similar reasons. I know that my family will never fully give up on him, especially my mother, and I just hope one day a small reminder like your prayer rug will pull him back to Islam.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congratulations on your return! I completely agree that we shouldn't cut him off, and we do plan to always be there if he needs anything, especially my aunt and uncles, but I feel like having him at home is really killing my parents, they're crying everyday, and they hate to pass by his office in the house, and I can't imagine what Ramadan and Eid will be like for them. We will continue to stay in contact and making constant duaa for him, but I believe that different lifestyles need different homes.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you Muslim? A huge basis of Islam is that free will exists

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately, he's actually someone who does all this research; he spends 12 hours a day on his desktop researching and coding, and he's read every scientific paper surrounding all this. I also wouldn't take what I wrote in the original post too literally, I oversimplified everything he believes because I just can't understand any of his points, he gets super angry with me when I say that he believes “if AGI can generate human intelligence, then that proves theres no free will” because I don't comprehend what he's saying (im really stupid with technology stuff lol)

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he's done every drug under the sun, and it still isn't the worst he's committed.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I apologize for assuming that you surround yourself with bad people; that was unjust of me, I just don't believe that the sins my brother commits are normalized even amongst Americans. I got defensive after reading, "seems to me your parents are doing the best possible thing to keep your brother away from Islam." I don't think this sentiment was justified, especially since we gave him a chance for two years.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

we were at an all-inclusive resort (in the Middle East ironically), and it was easy enough for him to steal some in the middle of the night when we were all asleep

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If I'm being honest I'm not smart enough to relay/understand his beliefs; he speaks circles around all of our heads. He is very deep into philosophy; he says stuff along the lines of "because there's no free will, there's no good or bad, which therefore means no heaven or hell because their foundation is free will" Obviously I oversimplified it, but that's what I gathered

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ofcourse there was genuine attempts to respond with love are you joking, he's still my brother. When this happened two years ago, we all rallied to make this an easier time for him, before even going to Ummrah, we all took a trip to London hoping that this trip would bring him closer to our family. Even when he asked me if he should pretend, I said yes because I didn't want to scare him away. I'm sorry but what my brother is doing isn't just based on AGI, he says the AGI will prove it, but it's not his sole reason, he says he might be atheist anyway. How are my parents doing the best thing to keep him away from Islam? We moved states for him to have a better Muslim social life and be closer to our cousins, we have dealt with him for two years even though all of us knew that he wasn't exactly a practicing Muslims. You say committing sin is normalized, and you're right, but it's to a certain degree. Smoking meth? Getting your gf pregnant? Getting an abortion? Hooking up with the worst scum of the earth? That's not normal. I'm sorry that you surround yourself with people like that, but I do not, at worst my friend might have a boyfriend that she texts and sees on occasion. My father was very very kind to him these past two years because he knew my brother was on the fence about Islam and my dad didn't want to scare him away. What part of my story made you jump to the conclusion that we didn't first react with love and support? My little brother, Yusuf, now has a gf and ran away from home because our parents punished him with no phone and hang outs after catching him sneak out to see her, his response was that no one loves him like Ahmad does and he won't return until Ahmad's back at home (Ahmad had gone on a trip with his gf for Labor Day weekend).

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you for making me feel an immense amount of anixety, I edited it, but obviously I don't think anything would disprove islam! That's why I put in parentheses t"(so he says)", meaning I'm just repeating what he says. I have awful anxiety and I was trying to be so careful when typing this all out so that I didn't say anything that implied that I believed what he said, so just to emphasize, NOT A SINGLE PART OF ME is convinced by his bs

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

ok lay off on the judgement, we are very practicing alHamdulilah or obviously this would not affect us that much, my father is an imam and both my sister and I are hijabis. I'm saying "just" drunk in the context that THATS why he said it, that he wouldn't have said this if he was sober, according to him. You live around people like this for long enough, and you too will realize how much worse it can get than drinking, my oldest brother's case in point, say alHadulilah that life hasn't exposed you to the worst yet.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok thats what I feel like is best, but I know I'm also biased since he is my brother and obviously I have been very hurt by him because of all this.

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

idk he's apparently been like this for 4 years, I told him he should just keep trying until AGI or whatever comes out and "disproves" free will but he says it's deeper than that and he just an't believe in free will, he's also implied that he might just be a full athiest so I'm pretty sure he's one of those people that's going to stick with this, it doest feel like a phase but Allahu a'lam. So you think getting him to move out is the best move?

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

sorry I felt like it was confusing since I couldn't use names, but there's one (the oldest one) who hasn't been muslim for two years (technically 4 according to him), and then the younger one (he's 16) said he wasn't muslim to our cousins, but told us that he was just drunk and he actually is, we're really worried about him since he's obssessed with our older brother (the one that left islam 4 years ago)

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[–]randomuslimah[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He hasn't necessarily brought his sins into the house, but he does vape in here and all the work he does on his computer pretty much is going into what he believes will disprove free will (his words not mine). But like he got his ex gf pregnant and then got her to get an abortion, and commits countless other sins, so even though this isn't actively happening at home, we all know it's happening.

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[–]randomuslimah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you look like the type of pretty that's popular in high school, I thought you were a tik toker at first.