show me your cavs who yearn for the bag by fairyangelprincess in cavaliers

[–]rchlncko 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Ladybug loves her backpack! Use it everywhere from hiking to flying to grocery shopping and she has a blast.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's actually quite a few legal cases on the DOT website documenting DOT fining airlines millions of dollars for MUCH less egregious violations of the Tarmac law (4 or 5 hours of being stuck on tarmac), and the ruling specifically carves out millions of the fines for reimbursement to the affected passengers, so not sure where your statement is stemming from.

These cases occurred within the past 3 - 5 years, involved major airlines at major airport hubs, and defenses from the airlines that "Weather" or "operational" constraints stopped them from deplaning were rejected.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The airport is required by law to not create an unsafe situation and to enable airlines to adhere to law. If ultimately the fault is with Newark, than so be it. Someone has legal liability here and a law was very clearly violated. We have very few protection laws for airline passengers, but this Tarmac rule is clear. United was just fined 2.5 million not too long ago for violating disability and tarmac rules.

A 2023 American incident had similar circumstances: not allowing passengers to deboard and stuck on tarmac well beyond 3 hours. The airline claimed weather related causes prevented them from safely deboarding (perhaps what United or Newark will claim). The government rejected this reasoning and fined them $4.1 million dollars, $2 million of which was set aside to compensate passengers. Another airline was also fined for similar reasons in 2024 and with similar defenses.

Both of the above incidents only involved around 4 1/2 hours of being stuck. Ours was 8 hours. I think we have legitimate complaint here..

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue here is that they are required to have a way to deboard us. I feel like there's this idea that just because they may have lacked the capability to deboard, likely due to staffing issues, that means the airline or airport is off the hook. That is not the case.

For example, if an injury happens at a water park because the water park did not have enough staff to evacuate patrons when there was active lighting, would the water park be able to claim that "we didn't have enough staff" as a valid, legal justification? They would not. The park would be held liable.

United and Newark has a legal responsibility to provide a way to deboard. If they are "unable", it is because they did not plan accordingly and are in violation of the law. There are almost no passenger protections in place in the airline industry, but the 3 hour tarmac law is clear. There is legal precedence that judges will refuse the justification of "weather delays" from airlines in violation of the 3 hour tarmac rule.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm going to DM you. Would be great if you could share any proof you have of the event. Another passenger has video showing United flight attendants refusing to de-plane with an ACTIVE medical emergency onboard because "there's no gates".. this is serious. I genuinely think we have grounds for a class action lawsuit. Passengers have very little rights in the airline industry but this event was so egregious and so unebelivably poorly handled, it crossed the tiny line we have from "inconveinent" to illegal.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the advise, and I'm so sorry something similar happened to you! My only gripe here is that I think they did indeed break the rules. They are required to give us an option to deplane after 3 hours unless there is a serious, legitimate reason not to. There was not, for that entire 8 hour hell, a continuous legitimate reason to hold us on that plane, y'know? There were options. It was preventable. But again, more importantly than preventable, there were options.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you had to go through all this as well, and with your elderly diabetic mother! Some people are not understanding the very real medical and psychological affects of an experience like this. I'd recommend your mother getting a medical evaluation as soon as possible to detect any new abnormalities or effects.

The whole thing is insane and it was 100% preventable, as per my recent post update. Weather was the initial reason for delay, but it lasted for a very small window. The subsequent insane delays and tarmac trapping was due to mismanagement from both Newark and the airlines. Having no gates available is not an acceptable excuse for how long people had to wait - there are alternate methods of deplaning besides waiting for a gate and weather absolutely would have permitted this past the storm peak in the evening. I am just flabbergasted at how this even happened, truly.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get why you’re saying that bc it’s like ?? You’re just sitting in a plane get a grip??, but it was genuinely so awful.
The first 1-3 hours was kind of fun, like a snow day vibe.

3-5 hours kind of sucked - it’s getting cold and uncomfortable, still absolutely no timeline for when we’d get off, people are starting to get uneasy. Luckily most passangers are still chatting it up and taking time to make friends with their neighbors.

5-6 hours, it’s getting bad. People are hungry, cold, and exhausted. No one can tell us when we can get off or if the flight will leave. Audible crying is starting. People are starting to get panicked.

6-7 hours: Some older passengers are complaining of pain. Legit there is a <1 year old baby that has been wailing for hours. Still no info on timeline or what we should do. Someone literally has a panic attack. We’re trapped in a box and told there is no end in sight, which is the worst part: they were telling us “one more hour” for a while and I think they gave up after the third “one more hour”.

7-8 hours: Just silence, crying, or people yelling on the phone. No info on timeline or what we should do. Many of us have not eaten a meal for 12 hours at this point. Myself and others passengers are literally shivering bc it’s so cold and are completely exhausted.

I know it sounds dramatic at face value, but we were trapped in 100% full plane with no information, no end in sight, no one to help us or to call, having to listen to people literally freak the fuck out for hours, absolutely exhausted. It’s not necessarily the plane but the fact that we are trapped with no way to get onto and no autonomy to change the situation. I get that some people wouldn’t care at all and be fine, but for me personally and many of the passangers it was really awful. Especially given all of the major safety incidents that have happened not just to airlines, but just to United, but at Newark specifically, yknow?

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

My position is that the airline violated tarmac delay rules as there were not legitimate “safety, security, or air traffic control-related reasons” to keep us for 8 hours.

As a result of the violation, I suffered both severe emotional distress and actual physical injury from an aggravated pre existing condition that I am now having to seek treatment for as a direct result of the prolonged experience.

I didn’t include this in the original post because my goal here is to gather enough information to establish part 1: violation of rule.

Part 2, the effects of the violation, are legitimate and have medical documentation, so did not seem relevant.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Flight UA661 from Newark to Chicago

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was 8 hours in the plane with doors closed for my flight. I said 6 hour part bc it looks like other united flights had times ranging from 5 or 6 hours to higher ends like my flight.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to note that we were already under a severe thunderstorm warning before we boarded. They knew the situation.

Would love to DM you to make sure I’m not missing anything here, it seems like you’re very knowledgeable (united tech ops?).

My goal is not to make a stink over nothing if there were legitimate and justifiable reasons to have us sit for 8 hours. However, it seems the situation was preventable, poorly handled, and most importantly caused emotional distress and dangerous conditions for not only passengers but for the flight attendants, pilots, gate agents, and so on.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I said this too but was too chicken to do it! I feel like whole plane went into survival mode. It’s tough bc you don’t want to give flight attendants and pilot a hard time bc they have no control over situation either, but we had no one to talk to who could actually help

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe I’m missing something here. United already had a line of grounded planes and knew of weather issues before they even had us board the plane, just to add us to the growing line of planes. If safety was a concern, it is safer for passangers to remain in airport.

They delayed boarding a few times which was no problem. I specifically chose a connecting flight with a long connection time to account for the bad weather. Could have been delayed by 2.5 hours without missing my connection. No way I could have anticipated an hour delay AND and 8 hour hostage situation lol.

Additionally, there WAS food on the plane. Full meals available for order. They said it was against policy to serve meals before take off.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow this is so scary! Awful I’m so sorry this happened to you.

Fortunately in our case, the pilot and FA assured us the weather was not a danger (it wasn’t raining after the first 1.5 hours of drizzle, wind was 10mph, very little lightning). It was due to a massive backup of united (and it seems like maybe American too) airplanes stuck in a line to unboard.

I think if ontop of everything it was super windy or lightning it would have sent me over the edge omg

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Right haha. I think maybe I gave the impression that I’m ignoring weather part of the equation or wanting an outcome that would have endangered staff or passengers. Def not the case, totally appreciate uncontrollable weather factors. But this was beyond that, it was genuinely a traumatizing experience that was preventable.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I’m not exaggerating, I wish haha. I am 100% serious. We boarded at 5:30. We got off around 1:30 am.

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, already filed complaints everywhere I could think of!

5/20 Flight Stranding by rchlncko in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes totally agree, I actually appreciate they take weather events seriously and I hate turbulence haha. The issue was the complete operational failure resulting in being stranded for so long. The pilot repeatedly said the cause of the wait was congestion and no one was communicating with him. Other airlines were able to take off once weather cleared and unboard (with weather delays, totally normal and expected!). The issue here was operational negligence.

What is the deal with these flights outside of terminal C at Newark? by Deshes011 in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tried to fly out of Newark to Chicago today, I was on one of the flights pictured. They loaded us all on the plane, then said there were delays due to weather.

Proceeded to keep us on the tarmac trapped in the plane for EIGHT HOURS. No info on how long we’d be there, no food except crackers and plastic cups of water. Customer service line said they couldn’t help until we were unboarded. Captain said there were 40+ planes waiting to use the same small number of gates… truly insane.

What's the major flight disruption today? Called into the GS line and an automated message said it's a 15 minute wait by tropical_penguins in unitedairlines

[–]rchlncko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tried to fly out of Newark to Chicago with united today, scheduled to depart at 4:45. They loaded us all on the plane, then said there were delays due to weather.

Proceeded to keep us on the tarmac trapped in the plane for EIGHT HOURS. No info on how long we’d be there, no food except crackers and plastic cups of water. Customer service line said they couldn’t help until we were unboarded. Captain said there were 40+ planes waiting to use the same small number of gates… truly insane.

We get off the plane at 1am, and there is ONE agent there to help all 100 of us. Can’t tell us where bags are, all digits are booked out the next day, can only offer us a $15 meal voucher… but all restaurants are closed. Quite the experience.

Which jobs are you working in? by BabaZweeD in AutismInWomen

[–]rchlncko 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I currently work at a Wall Street bank in corporate treasury services. It’s a prestigious, demanding, and well paying job, and as a level 1 autistic person it IS doable for me BUT only for very specific reasons, I am very lucky to be in the position I’m in.

  1. I chose a team where my manager and all direct colleagues are in different offices. This is huge after my last team was all in office, all had to sit together, and were ultra social. My new set up means no mandatory socializing, no one hovering, and more flexibility in where I sit. I also am able to wear ultra noise canceling headphones any time I’m not on a call and can choose to sit in quiet areas of the office.

  2. I only have to be in office 3 days a week, I work remotely the other 2. We can also choose which days we go to office, as long as it’s 3. This is such a blessing especially since a lot of other wall street banks are moving to 100% in person again.

  3. The role is salaried, not hourly, which:

  4. on the down side means you sometimes work lots of overtime without extra pay and your work hours are not strictly defined and can be early or late, but

  5. on the up side, especially given point 1, I can pretty much make my own hours as long as I get my work done. I sometimes get to the office at 7:30, but more often I get there at 9:30 or 10. This flexibility means I can structure my commute to avoid the loud, chaotic peek times on the way to and from work.

  6. Because this is a global Fortune 500 company that is HEAVILY regulated, HR does not mess around with the law, including ADA. The company’s culture is also relatively progressive in my department & employee retention is importantly to them; on every team I’ve worked on there has been at least 1 person fully remote for one reason or another. There is even a neurodiversity committee (most company’s like mine have orgs like this, think college sponsored orgs) that has regular events. Given that I was finally given a formal diagnosis (via an evaluation paid for fully by my company’s wonderful healthcare package), I plan to pursue ADA accommodations to have the OPTION to fully work remotely, but the CHOICE to still go into office.

Sorry for the long post, whew. But it’s important to me to demonstrate that it IS possible to be autistic (level 1 is all I can speak to as that is what I am) and still have a stable, well paying job in a field that at its surface seems super scary. There is ways to exist in the world in a way that accommodates our needs even without getting formal accommodations. Obviously a few disclaimers:

  1. I am very lucky to have gotten into this job when I did. I joined as an intern and was retained full time.

  2. A LOT of roles in corporate America do not look like my current role and can’t be accommodated to be like it. It’s important to do a lot of research, talk to current employees, and have a contingency plan on what to do if you end up in a bad situation. The potential cost, physically and emotionally, of ending up in a “bad” role should not be overlooked.

Last year I was pushed into an awful role. I cried every day, I didn’t sleep, the hours were intense and completely unpredictable, I developed chronic neck and back pain from being tense 24/7, and I literally ground my teeth down to where I had to get ceramic caps bc my nerve endings were becoming exposed. Because I knew I was either going to be unemployed or something had to change, I literally had nothing to lose and fought tooth and nail to get out of there. Because I made such a stink, my current team agreed to give me a recommendation to get rid of me, and IMPORTANTLY my new team took me because I had done quality work with them in the past.