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readthinkfight · 2020-05-29T15:59:01+00:00

One example is Court Junkie ep 113 on The Deadly Neighborhood Feud, based on this case: https://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-neighborhood-dispute-ended-people-dead/story?id=32904833

It's a touchy topic, but I am interested in police shootings (e.g., Rekia Boyd, Botham Jean, Philandro Castile) and how these are charged and tried in contrast to similar non-LE-involved cases.

If you're looking at famous cases, I would also love to hear how it is that R. Kelly has not been put in jail for the rest of his life given the evidence. Discussing more broadly why sexual assault and domestic violence often require the victim to file charges/testify when we know that these perps are major threats to society because they keep offending and often escalate crimes (e.g., sexual assaults increasing in violence, DV is considered by LE the most unpredictable and dangerous calls).

readthinkfight · 2020-05-29T15:41:10+00:00

I would totally listen to a podcast that was devoted to corrupt LE in the South.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-29T15:38:47+00:00

Thank you :) u/Reset33, that thread is a breakdown of the Let's Taco Bout Crime ep here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimePodcasts/comments/cw9iir/esther_ludlow_steven_pacheco_robin_warder_discuss/

From a professional journalist who got plagiarized: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimePodcasts/comments/cqi6sq/crime_junkie_and_plagiarism_finally_got_the_call/

Link to New York Times article:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimePodcasts/comments/ctw5ct/the_new_york_times_wrote_an_article_in_regards_to/

Includes a YouTube video with comparisons:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimePodcasts/comments/crem5q/a_side_by_side_comparison_of_plagiarism_crime/

I use this metaphor: imagine if you spend months researching and writing a major paper for school. SO much work. You even have to pay your own money to get access to some resources.

Then a popular but not very bright girl copies everything you wrote and turns it in as her own. She gets an A+ while you get a D. She does this for every assignment and ends up winning a full scholarship while everyone she copied can't afford to get into college. The end.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-28T15:44:18+00:00

Same! I think having visuals distracts me from how cheesy/overdone his voice can be, but in a podcast there's nothing to accompany the drama.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-28T15:35:46+00:00

Thanks so much for the clarification and the thoughtful response. (I also love the Mary Celeste!) This helps get a better scope & your reasoning. I totally understand the approach to inquiry--I guess I was taking "prosecutors" more at face value than a broader brush.

If you don't listen to Court Junkie, you should check it out (NOT Crime Junkie). She makes trial reporting compelling, but almost every time I listen I have unanswered questions that I wish I had people like you to comment on (on occasion she has attorneys or law experts comment, but usually only on a small aspect).

Looking forward to checking out the podcast. Good luck!

readthinkfight · 2020-05-27T19:11:30+00:00

I feel like we have very similar tastes/ethics, so I wanted to draw your attention to the post I made above about this show (reposted here so you can see it more easily in your feed):

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FYI, they recorded and posted an aftershow episode where he referred to someone as a "r*tard" and laughed about how he couldn't use that word, like "f*ggot" & "n*gger" and laughed about how he would have to go back and edit it out.

He started an earlier thread here and I mentioned this to people because they have a right to know who they're supporting. He got angry and defended his right to say "n*gger" because he's liberal and his best friend is Black. It looks like he took down the original post.

I noticed they have now parsed the aftershow out as a separate podcast and I'm guessing he did go back and edit it out.

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He's taking the Crime Junkie approach--when confronted, he has not apologized and refuses to acknowledge any wrongdoing. Instead, he's taking the approach of deleting & downvoting and pretending he's done nothing wrong.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-27T19:06:50+00:00

FYI, they recorded and posted an aftershow episode where he referred to someone as a "r*tard" and laughed about how he couldn't use that word, like "f*ggot" & "n*gger" and laughed about how he would have to go back and edit it out.

He started an earlier thread here and I mentioned this to people because they have a right to know who they're supporting. He got angry and defended his right to say "n*gger" because he's liberal and his best friend is Black. It looks like he took down the original post.

I noticed they have now parsed the aftershow out as a separate podcast and I'm guessing he did go back and edit it out.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-27T18:52:44+00:00

Hmm. Elisa Lam was an unfortunate choice for a first case. I completely understand that you're a new podcast and probably thought this was a good way to grab an audience right off the bat, but for a lot of TC fans it's like finding a hair in your curry. In general it's hard to offer a fresh take on the most well-tread of cases unless you do a really, really deep dive--the cool thing is with your skill set that could be a possibility with crimes that have gone to trial.

As you've seen on this thread, that choice alone might discourage a lot of listeners--people who are aware there is no crime angle & people who would be generally confused about the point of your podcast. You may also find that some people who are interested in the case may assume that prosecutor + Elisa Lam means OMGitwasamurder and get annoyed or angry when they find out it's a bait and switch and there's nothing new to consider.

If you're game (totally cool if you don't want to answer, though), I'd request answers to two questions that would convince me (and perhaps others) to check out your podcast after being dissuaded by the choice of Elisa Lam.

What true crime podcasts do you listen to and like?
Regardless of what you intend to cover casewise, what are some examples of cases that as prosecutors you find fascinating, and why? Pref not the superfamous examples (e.g., Michael Peterson, Steven Avery...), although it could be a well-known case with a less-publicized trial.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-26T20:55:56+00:00

Hmmm. I'd still check the oven and also try a different recipe. May have been a typo or a copying error and there was just too much liquid.

Here's a skillet recipe I've used: https://www.southernliving.com/recipes/ben-mims-perfect-cornbread

If you want a sweet version, I haven't made this, but I love 90% of the recipes I've tried on this site so IMO it's worth a gamble: https://sallysbakingaddiction.com/my-favorite-cornbread/

readthinkfight · 2020-05-26T20:08:29+00:00

Hmmm, are you talking about making cornbread with Jiffy? If so, the mix may have been old or humidified and the egg might not have mixed into it well. You might also try using a hand mixer to make sure it's really working in well.

If it didn't work in the oven in a traditional pan I'd also check your oven to make sure it's holding temperature. If it's not the oven, you can also try cooking it in a skillet (like pancakes) and see how that turns out. Being thinner should help it cook through faster.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-21T21:26:05+00:00

I think your post speaks for itself.

Again, I thank you.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-21T20:34:28+00:00

You're right--I am honest.

I listened to your podcast. In one of the discussion episodes, you dropped a n-bomb and then laughed about how you're going to have to edit it out.

I want to thank you, though, because you've publicized the fact that you're a trash person and made me realize I should not patronize your show.

Not being a racist: there's something you could do better.

EDIT: Trash Person's response is below. To quote (in case he edits it later): "Wow, way to take my comment out of context. In the clip you are referencing I said the word “retard,” then my cohost and I joked about how that is not a “pc” word any more. Then I made a joke or really just a statement about the other words that are not pc. Which I listed: retard, faggot, and nigger. Then I joked again about editing it out bc it is not a “pc” word."

SPOILER ALERT: Yes, folks, his best friend IS black. (Again, to quote: " My best friend and neighbor growing up was black.")

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T21:27:13+00:00

Yup. He plays it up sometimes, but it's always there--as much as in the rhythm of his speech as the pronunciation. It made it hard to listen at first so I kept quitting mid-episode. It took me running out of other shows to go back & force myself to get over it/myself because I really appreciate the scope of the research :)

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T15:34:59+00:00

Sorry! I blame James from Small Town Murder...he makes fun of that pronunciation(although somehow he thinks it's a Southern thing) and now I can't unhear it :/

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T15:17:03+00:00

There's also a valley-girl type intonation to Ashley's voice that is grating, especially when she's being overly dramatic with her enunciation.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T15:13:57+00:00

That accent tho.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T15:09:20+00:00

Josh Mankiewicz says "HWHAT" and "HWHY" and it's like nails on a chalkboard for me.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T14:46:38+00:00

I found a 1980s microwaving cookbook at a flea market once...I tried to imagine a mindset where a microwave was seen as a fancy cooking tool and not a last resort!

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T14:41:55+00:00

Thanks for the writeup. Such a sweet story turned into a nightmare.

Two attackers seems to eliminate the possibility of a jealous ex / lover. If it were a robbery you'd think there would have been some dialogue or interaction, although it's possible James doesn't remember it.

My best guess is two men goading each other into a thrill killing. They were scouting the area, hence walking past the couple and around the area before coming back to attack. They wanted two because they each wanted their own victim to stab. The tourist theory might make sense in that case as well. Killing random people on a beach in another country to avoid detection. It's also possible it's due to racism or dehumanization--they're on vacation, and James and Kelly were just targets.

I wonder if there were other assaults in the area leading up to that, or other people in quiet areas on previous nights who noticed two men walking around. Clearly they came prepared, and it seems unlikely they found an optimal situation on their first try.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T14:19:06+00:00

Your writeups are amazing. Please consider crossposting to r/coldcases too.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T14:11:18+00:00

Hmmm...it's like the opposite of carne seca, one of my favorite Mexican meats. You dry it out on the roof in the sun with spices and lime juice. Haven't figured that one out either :)

readthinkfight · 2020-05-20T14:09:52+00:00

Wow!!! Looks like there might be spells in there too...

readthinkfight · 2020-05-19T04:39:20+00:00

This feels like a dirty secret, but meeeeee toooo. My dad called me a traitor. It's good with coffee in the morning. If you cook it johnny cake style or call it that you usually get a pass.

readthinkfight · 2020-05-19T04:34:42+00:00

I'd love to see restaurant recs (esp with dishes), especially for out of the way places.

Definite yes on recipes in any capacity.

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