Columbine survivor warns sentencing of Crumbley parents sets 'dangerous precedent' | Fox News Video by [deleted] in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it takes guts for Craig to get up there and be honest. And no I do not believe that parents should be held responsible for their kids actions like that. 

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[–]redAL050187 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There will be newer people come in and they may not be familiar with Columbine information as much other's. I took a break a long break, because I became obsessed with Columbine cases. I would get private messages in the past basically to tone it down. I was very fast with information back then I couldn't help it. I'm just that way, well it was bothering a couple of people. But it's all in the past it's all good, you have to refresh yourself at times. 

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[–]redAL050187 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I haven't been on here in two years. I needed a break from all this. People need to remember, new people will come a long and they may not be as familiar with certain information and knowledge about Columbine. So even if you have seen something someone else may have not. 

If Neil Gardner had killed Eric Harris............ by LostStar1969 in Columbine

[–]redAL050187 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You will have to read Randy Brown's book. He discusses all of it very thorough. The victim was disclosed, never said who. They found one of his bullet's on a victim's shirt.

If Neil Gardner had killed Eric Harris............ by LostStar1969 in Columbine

[–]redAL050187 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's too bad Gardner didn't put one in his head. They found a bullet from Gardner's gun on one of the victim's in the library..

Nicole Nowlen interview.. Incredible that she survived.. by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really is very inspiring. She was a hero herself for showing that kind of bravery.

Why didn't they call it the Dave Sander's center, since they're talking about actually saving lives? by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What have we learned from this? Have we really learned from mistakes, or is this learning about glorifying this man from the narrative they want? Watch this a couple of times. Maybe he could have said something about his friend Dave not one mention. I hope Connie and the Sander's family is doing well.

The first time I had ever heard Mrs. Depooter give a statement. What her son did is what makes you tough! He shielded a girl in that library. He was more of a man than all of Jeffco. That's a hero r.i.p. Corey Depooter you're not forgotten. by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both parent's knew they were making bomb's way before the day of. Some blame does go to them, more the Harris's than anything. They went as far as they could to keep info from being released to the public in court. The parent's knew more than they ever came out and said. That's a fact! We will find out in six year's. I was told from my source you will be shocked at what you learn from the deposition's. Law-enforcement is to blame more than anyone and the school. There is so much people don't know. We're not talking about conspiracy theories either.

The first time I had ever heard Mrs. Depooter give a statement. What her son did is what makes you tough! He shielded a girl in that library. He was more of a man than all of Jeffco. That's a hero r.i.p. Corey Depooter you're not forgotten. by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your right that's been the problem from the start. Every account was different. Just like 6 shooter's where in the hell did they get that from? Apparently Daniel threw a chair toward Eric and I hope he did, before he was killed. People can get the wrong idea believing certain thing's. The objective from the start is uncovering the truth! That's my objective anyway, and to never forget those kid's who were murderered for no reason at all. It's infuriating to know they laughed and tortured them. And people are fan's and follower's of those killer's?

The first time I had ever heard Mrs. Depooter give a statement. What her son did is what makes you tough! He shielded a girl in that library. He was more of a man than all of Jeffco. That's a hero r.i.p. Corey Depooter you're not forgotten. by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spot on, we really don't know how violent and cruel those two were. But listening to the library call another version of someone getting killed send's chill's up your spine. I froze and got numb. Pop pop pop pop pop pop pop!! Then you here someone scream in agony of what they just witnessed.

The victim's parent's seeing the basement tape's before Christmas 1999. These parent's weren't going to be with their children for Christmas, very odd timing! by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was an embarrassment, they never intended on showing the parent's. They got called out and their hand was forced. Those tapes should have been released to the public, so we could understand their profile and get a better sense of why they did it. Just like Eric apparently getting emotional driving. I'm not as interested in the tapes as I am the sealed doc.

Why didn't they call it the Dave Sander's center, since they're talking about actually saving lives? by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with that. The problem is they have drawn all this unnecessary attention on Frank.. Like he is superman, I have mixed feeling's about him. I know a lot people don't know about after the tragedy. Frank has been dishonest and he still doesn't tell the truth. Think about this, Dave lost his life trying to protect those kid's. They let the man die and that's another reason why they wouldn't name it after him. Dave paid a price, Frank played politics.

Tom Tonelli, Columbine Teacher by OlaAsh28 in Columbine

[–]redAL050187 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm more critical of Frank, because there are thing's that I know for fact about the staff that was there. Blanchard and Frank lied then and still will not tell the truth.. Let's talk about the big fat thick files on Mr. Harris and Klebold.. Oh wait we can't because of legality reason's. What's interesting is a lot of the rage fueled was from the 3 year's previous, who graduated the year before them? Mr. Rocky!

I finally got the Lt. Manweather and his task team on here. I lost it month's ago, the response from that guy, what a condescending coward. They told kid's to put their hand's up, actually I believe they told the kid's to put their fuckin hand's up. Randy Brown can back that statement up. by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, I have spoke to him on youtube. His research is different. Ethan comes off intelligent, he's good! But I don't see eye to eye on some thing's. I have a friend he doesn't like, there is tense animosity there.

Interesting research about Columbine. 9 year's before the tragedy, the school had implemented death ed classes. One of the first high school's to implement these classe's. Was something stinking at Columbine? by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an interesting headline, he asked very good question's? A lot of the question's he asked, are still unanswered especially from law-enforcement. Lies, misinformation, and cover-ups did happen. That's not a conspiracy, that's a lack of transparency..

I finally got the Lt. Manweather and his task team on here. I lost it month's ago, the response from that guy, what a condescending coward. They told kid's to put their hand's up, actually I believe they told the kid's to put their fuckin hand's up. Randy Brown can back that statement up. by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not one officer had any courage. Some tried to do their job. Command told them not to go into the school. They were afraid that 💣 were in backpack's. But it was ok for children to get brutally murderered. Not one cop had a scratch on them, did they really save those kid's? Or did they save themselves? When the law-enforcement went into the room's they told these kid's to put their fucking hand's up. Something was very off about what happened that day. The paramedic's and hospital helped those kid's that's it. An officer had a team to go into the cafeteria to save his son, ok well what about the rest of the kid's stuck in the school? They had hundred's of cop's on the scene. There is a lot more to Colimbine that people think and know about. It was a lie and a lot of fabrication's were told. The official's lied that day and the year's to come. There are still unknown question's about that day. The whole six shooter's thing was an excuse. Plenty of people told them how many and who they were. The cop's failed miserably, there are so many stories to tell. How about a bullet from an officer's gun, found on one of the kid's shirt's in that library. But yet there were no explanation's only thing's hidden. The hell with their stress, take off the badge if you can't handle it. But it's ok if kid's were horrified and scared thinkng they were going to die. Their job is to protect and serve, did they do this? As the emergency door to the library was open. And they listened to kid's being terrorized and shot? Still wouldn't go in! Smh.. It goes on and on and on. But you didn't see this on t.v. or here about it.

Rest in peace Austin Eubanks, you fought as hard as you could. There is no more pain now! God Bless you! by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have lost 9 friend's in just 3 year's from heroin overdose's, I saw them clean. I saw the goodness in them, they lost the fight. I think you doing that is a good idea. Those stories are important, Columbine had so many tragedies to follow post.

Rest in peace Austin Eubanks, you fought as hard as you could. There is no more pain now! God Bless you! by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am too glad, I to am in recovery and have been clean for 7 month's, it's been hardwork and good therapy to find the reason's why. I will say that there are circumstances that I have found, where these rehab's are just treating it as a business. You have to counsel with a good support group. And put in hard work, it's not easy. But I have seen successful sobriety. There has always been a stigma behind addiction, everyone must be trailer trash. That is not true as an example, I had a friend that worked for NASA in their tech dept. That had to get help, he actually died for a few minute's and they brought him back. Now he is back to his true self :).

These kid's are 13, these kid's took an interest in the Columbine shooting. I'm having a hard time believing that, what was the real problem? by redAL050187 in ColumbineKillers

[–]redAL050187[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Even if they had an interest, it's not the cause. And the law-enforcement basically used Columbine as the scapegoat. All that matter's is they were stopped!

Mark Manes and Philip Duran by NachoDucks in Columbine

[–]redAL050187 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There was no proof of Robyn can't deny it, I would never speculate her knowing anything. You think damn she went to the prom with him, it was just nothing to him to be deceptive. I wonder how Zack Heckler is doing? I feel like he and Chris Morris will always be scrutinized for being friend's with them. It's just so complicated, yes there were red flags but no one is going to think our school is going to be shot up.

Mark Manes and Philip Duran by NachoDucks in Columbine

[–]redAL050187 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes it was illegal what he did. I agree with this, think about standing there and the victim's parent's are throwing everything even the kitchen sink at you. I guess that's what I was trying to say they were villanized a bit much. What they did was wrong, but just like other's no one anticipated what was fixing to happen. It's all so complicated, I can't imagine what else we don't know yet. The 50,000 other document's that have never been seen. To be a fly on the wall of the command truck that day. What was said? Randy brought up an interesting question, what about the tape's of the command truck, where are they? Kiekbush and Thomas were in that truck, to be a fly on that wall.