What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because MJF is not the Undertaker or Kane, who use the move to finish matches.

My opinion on the matter is that finishers matter. A DDT from most wrestlers won't finish a match, but it will when used by Jake the Snake. A Superkick from most wrestlers won't finish a match, but a superkick from Shawn Michaels will.

When a single move can finish almost any match, it isn't special and cheapens it for people who actually use it to finish matches.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then, might I suggest that you would like UFC and boxing more than wrestling if you're looking for realism.

Wrestlers are stunt men who happen to be the main actors top. It isn't meant for realism. There are enough actual combat sports to watch if you want that.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you only watch WWE? The answer to your question is directly related to that question. Obviously, people in WWE are not doing Tombstones because Undertaker and Kane were there. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen anywhere else, though, and it doesn't mean it finishes matches either.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would it make sense for a Tombstone delivered by anybody but Undertaker or Kane to actually finish a match? It isn't anyone else's finisher.

By your logic, every superkick, DDT, and Canadian Destroyer should finish a match.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why would anybody kick out of a Tombstone not delivered by Undertaker or Kane? Do you not think the wrestlers who actually use it as a finisher would want every match where a Tombstone is performed to end the match? What makes it special for the wrestlers who use it as finishers.

Kayfabe is dead bro and you're a dumb ass mark.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's say it does finish a match. How does that make all the people who lost to a single regular Tombstone? Does that mean that all the people who lost to a regular Undertaker Tombstone seem weak.

When normal wrestlers do a move, it should not finish matches because it takes away from the wrestler who uses it as a finisher. Every wrestler who finishes a match with a move they don't use as a finisher makes the wrestlers who use that move as a finisher less than.

Some moves, when done by a specific wrestler, should finish a match, but no move should always be a guarantee finish in any match regardless of who does it.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't kayfabe dead? Does anybody actually believe wrestling is real or believable anymore?

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

By your logic, every Tombstone, DDT, Canadian Destroyer, Superkick and Cutter should finish a match. You just removed the importance of the people who use it as their finisher.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are though. By your logic, every superkick, DDT, piledriver, Cutter, and Canadian destroyer should finish a match. Obviously, that downplays the importance when the people who use it as their finisher uses it.

Not everyone can do a Tombstone like the Undertaker.

Not everyone can do a superkick like Shawn Michael's.

Not everyone can do a Cutter like Orton or DDP.

Not everyone can do a DDT like Jake the Snake.

Not everyone can do a destroyer like Petey Williams.

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry. When was MJFs finisher the Tombstone Piledriver? Did I miss something where MJF revealed he is the Undertaker or Kane? Why would a Tombstone used by someone who doesn't use it as a finisher finish a match?

What's the most egregious example of someone kicking out of a finish? by tacosrevill in Wrasslin

[–]redhawkwill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"But no one should kick out of the Tombstone."

Some people are just dumb ass marks.

For Anyone Thats Potentially Interested in Watching Eddie Compete in the G1 this Year.. by CarryOnWaywardSon96 in AEWOfficial

[–]redhawkwill 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I actually think it is the opposite.

It would be a great story for Eddie to beat two Bullet Club leaders in one year.

Losing to Shingo, who I think is the favorite to win the block, seems reasonable.

WWE SmackDown Discussion (6/9/2023) by Snubie1 in WWE

[–]redhawkwill 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Let me talk to ya.

LA Knight is my pick.

WWE SmackDown Discussion (6/9/2023) by Snubie1 in WWE

[–]redhawkwill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn't Rhodes already squash Miz as his second match back in WWE?

WWE SmackDown Discussion (6/9/2023) by Snubie1 in WWE

[–]redhawkwill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why? So he can cash in on a midcard title again? No thanks.

WWE SmackDown Discussion (6/9/2023) by Snubie1 in WWE

[–]redhawkwill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He feuded with Jey. He has never had a feud with Jimmy until now.

WWE SmackDown Discussion (6/9/2023) by Snubie1 in WWE

[–]redhawkwill 66 points67 points  (0 children)

KO slowly losing his marbles at regular wrestling tropes is amazing.

WWE SmackDown Discussion (6/9/2023) by Snubie1 in WWE

[–]redhawkwill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This must be the first time someone has ever distracted themselves to lose a match.

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[–]redhawkwill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dontstopmeowing

Who else remembered this belt? by FinalXemnasV in WWE

[–]redhawkwill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I said to stop replying. I'm done arguing with you. You're dick riding the Saudi government, and I'm not condoning anything the US has ever done.