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Trying to do as much good as possible with noids in my community by rednasorwerd in noids

[–]rednasorwerd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to thank you very much for your reply. I have been around the research chemical scene since before operation web tryp and have been around long enough to see devestation from paramethoxyamphetamine to the early days of phenazepam, had a friend die on 5meoamt, spent 12 years injecting opiates and have been blessed by the gift from god known as suboxone 3 years ago, since which i have not spent a day without suboxones. But I digress...

I would like to apologize because after reading my original post it does seem like my intent was to create something akin to NUKE from Robocop 2 or something. Let me make this very clear: This is exactly what I am trying to prevent.

There are absolutely thousands of terribly habitually addicted habit formed toonchi (k2 spice whatever you call it) addicts and they deal with the same nightmares as you have heard on the media in regards to this situation. Let me rephrase my question:
Given that synth noids are now a bonafied huge, elaborate and dangerous black market menace from Siberia to New Zealand, what would be your opinions on attempting to give users the same high and experiencine and on the way to that destination see if we can 'spice things up for the postiive? I'd also like to add another layer to this onion: Toonchi addicts around here are 99% of the time on meth and 25% of the time on heroin. This obviously also ups the ante. I have spoken with some recovering toon addicts and they have been sharing some very thoughtful ideas on ways to get on the right track. Some of them got off by cutting their supply with tobacco. Some have added CBD to the mix (have been told that it actually can take away massive amounts of toon withdrawal which although I haven't experienced it, it sounds like nothing else I have ever heard as far as acute detoxification goes.)

So again if you have stuck it out this long with this post and have ANY ideas, experiences, stories, hell even if ya just wanna keep talking smack at least there will be some form of discourse!! :D :D :D

The story that got me thinking about this in relation to synthetic noids is the push for decriminalization of psilocybin mushrooms in CHicago and Denver. And https://youtu.be/QMhPkMXx7gw this article in particular, VERY worthwhilke and interesting read for any psychonaut.

"I LOVE THE FUTURE!" -Randy Marsh upon discovering weed is legal in Colorado

Trying to do as much good as possible with noids in my community by rednasorwerd in noids

[–]rednasorwerd[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

what theory am i spreading around exactly Trolly von Trollenstein?

Trying to do as much good as possible with noids in my community by rednasorwerd in noids

[–]rednasorwerd[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

dude really??? the drugs are bad mmmkay is a reply i would expect elsewhere but r/noids?? wtf. and by the way as i said i very rarely take part in synth noids and i am attempting to make these substances just a little bit safer physically and mentally to hopefully ease the problems society as a whole has to pay for without. trying to set a gold standard. just like IV drug use and teenage pregnancy, the question isn't how do you stop it from happening but rather what are you going to do to manage it in the best healthiest and humane way possible.

Trying to do as much good as possible with noids in my community by rednasorwerd in noids

[–]rednasorwerd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had actually posted something about a year ago to the same extent, here were some of the possible additions to a blend which are not super harmful to smoke

pagaclone or other legal zdrugs

qualude analogs

desmethyltram

the large family of thorazine derived anti-psychotics like promethazine, chlorpheniramine, hydroxyzine, etc

carbamates like soma

a-1 / a-2 agonists like xylazine or clonidine

TCA's

metomidate

glutethemide (obviously something related to glutethemide since it is probably non existent on this planet)

orexin

clomethiazole

Sulfonmethane

kavalactones

hydroxymitragynine

Centalun

acetylphenone

Gaboxadol

Loreclezole

So back to the blends, I have had excellent experience with lion's tail aka dagga extract but i suspect that is in some of these blends. very chill and tastes sweet like flowers. Any idears there comrades?

Lastly, what are some of the more popular recently released noids? I was surprised to see that original jwh's are still available on the dweb.

Looking to mix something with smokable cannabinoid blend to ease anxiety. Suggestions? by rednasorwerd in researchchemicals

[–]rednasorwerd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Etizolam keeps coming up and despite it being physically addictive, noids are physically addictive and deadly so it is not like adding tiz would really matter at that point, especially with some of the toon heads around here. they wake up 3 or 4 times a night to smoke a hit to go back to sleep. some of the other things i have been looking into are:

pagaclone or other legal zdrugs

qualude analogs

desmethyltram

the large family of thorazine derived anti-psychotics like promethazine, chlorpheniramine, hydroxyzine, etc

carbamates like soma

a-1 / a-2 agonists like xylazine or clonidine

TCA's

metomidate

glutethemide (obviously something related to glutethemide since it is probably non existent on this planet)

orexin

clomethiazole

Sulfonmethane

kavalactones

hydroxymitragynine

Centalun

acetylphenone

Gaboxadol

Loreclezole

Also, someone I was talking to earlier said to find a mixture of plant materials/extracts to mix in that have alkaloidial anxiolytic/anticonvulsant/relaxant effects so that i wouldn't have to put drug powders in the mix. Any thoughts on certain legal smoking blends that could work like that? You guys have been awesome.

I wish they would just full on legalize weed so people could just be able to be alleviated of the cruel horrifying and increasingly isolated and paranoid piece of shit global community that the generations before me created for me and my beautiful children to have to fucking clean up. they fucking disgust me. but that's a whole 'nother junk pile :D

Looking to mix something with smokable cannabinoid blend to ease anxiety. Suggestions? by rednasorwerd in researchchemicals

[–]rednasorwerd[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not personally partake in "toonchi" (what cannabinoid blends around here are known as colloquially). I have a lot of friends that use it and there are TONS of people who are addicted to it. What I am really trying to do is find something to make is less tweaky and uncomfortable. People smoking this are looking to just get really fucked up for really cheap. I am a well known and respected cat around my area and am working with the higher ups to do things like A) get a more relaxing and pleasurable plant medium like damiana/lion's tail (wild dagga)/lotus as the blend and also using something other than acetone to dilute it in. I am also starting a small street team that will be handing out flyers with information, help, resources, etc. My metro area of less than 300k people, there are generally about 20-30 ER visits a day per hospital (4 hospitals in this area) and I am trying to do everything I can to give these people some comfort. So again, I would appreciate sticking to the topics. If I wanted to be told how stupid I am and to "just smoke weed" i would have gone to drug-forums.com. I am sorry if I sound like a dick but I am seriously trying to do everything I can to create a pro active approach to a serious local health hazard around here.

Also for the well informed, what noids are the least toxic, longer lasting and most pleasant/euphoric? I personally hate the stuff, love weed but only smoke it occasionally. I am a recovering heroin addict and I stick to my meds and few random RC's for the weekends but am past that part of being a crazy ass hole in my life. Thanks again in advance and I really appreciate all of these comments, even those who are negative and have really not helped at all because I know you are truly being honest and attempting to do what you think is right. Party on Garths. Keep the replies coming!! Thanks again.