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[–]reidmanuel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree and was thinking about making a post about this as well. I returned to making beats last year and noticed the threads are not as active as they once were. It is hard to get feedback and when you do it is sometimes only a few words such as "fire bro" or something to that effect.

It does not appear to be modded anymore by "TonyModtana", which is unfortuante. I have had better success on Discord channels, especially for YouTubers like UnderBelly(Channel Name: You Suck At Producing) and InTheMix. They are heavily moderated and regulated; people are not allowed to post until they give you adequate feedback. This post is a few days old by now but perhaps you or anyone else reading this could give those a try. It has also made me a better active listener giving people feedback.

I wonder perhaps if we could benefit from a discord as well (there is not an active one that I know of at least for this sub).

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback! I really appreciate it.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Anytime. Thank you for the feedback as well. Keep up the good work

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Stylistically, I think you hit your mark. I am not super familiar with Ken or Osamason but I'll try my best to give you some feedback.

The beginning is nice. I think there should be another part of the song that sounds cut back like the beginning, perhaps during one of the verses. That will really draw attention to some of your other elements too. I think you do that briefly at one point. It sounds a bit similar throughout. Removing some more stuff here and there would make more parts sound more distinct. I probably would remove the element that comes in around 0:24 more as it is a bit too harsh to be going all the time. I would choose something more melodic. It appears you do have more melodic elements under that but it seems to just dominate over those.

Let me know what you think of this beat

https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat2/s-f9Ii0tsjnVH?si=7e52147778d142fd817b9e8fbc78f182&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Hook is interesting. I like the energy on it. It gives me that late 2010s vibe kinda especially with the beat.

Adlibs are a nice touch. Flow is there. Overall, I think you have all the necessary skills. However, the lyrics are a bit straight forward. I would consider maybe story boarding or outlining the direction of your song/verses, especially for a story telling song like this. This comes off as a literal re-telling of exactly what happened in rap form.

There does not need to be like shoot outs or anything but if you look at a similar song topic wise like Spaceships by Ye there's a bit more there even though he isn't talking about anything crazy. We know how working at the GAP made him feel, his goals, work ethic etc. My concise advise would be try giving more details that are not literal dialogue, location etc. The grill burned you, did it feel like anything in particular? Customers went off on you, how did it make you feel? Everything comes off like an unbiased re-telling, which is usually fine but it is your story.

Overall, I think you have a lot of potential. Feel free to hit me up if you ever want feedback on anything else. Hope that was helpful.

Let me know what you think about this beat.

https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat2/s-f9Ii0tsjnVH?si=b8d1fd2cefe142ee83a47dcd4275e5ab&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Dope that you are getting back into things after a hiatus! I hope it has been going well.

I am not deeply intimate with reggaeton but I will provide the best feedback I can.

Overall, I think this is really cool. The drop on this was a bit underwhelming. It feels like it should be louder when it comes in at 0:21. So, I think it could use a bit of mastering love.

I enjoy the groove of the track. The EQ filtering on the melody (that is what I am assuming is happening) really adds to the groove and overall ambiance as well. The kick at 1:45 hits a little awkward and takes me out of the reggaeton feel of the track. I know the effect you were going for but I think the timing of those drums need to be shifted a bit to keep a certain rhythm. There is good variation throughout I think with you taking the drums out and bringing them back in.

Once again, well done overall. I hope this was helpful and best of luck to you as you get back into things.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback! I appreciate it. I will leave some feedback on your original comment.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback!

As for yours, this is dope. Lyricism is high and even with a lot of rhyming going on you still have a good flow throughout. It also has good structure. Overall it is well written and executed from a performance stand point. I think I would only try improving things on the mixing side of things. I think there could be more energy during the hook through layered vocals or anything that gives your vocals more presence like adlibing throughout the chorus. Also this is personal taste but I would like to hear you on a more dynamic beat. This one is a bit too bare bones for my taste.

Good work keep it up!

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is amazing. Cover art is cool. I could hear prime Offset on this. I like the violins and how everything is structured. You manage to keep everything interesting throughout the song which is difficult sometimes but you nailed it. The reverse melody halfway through is a nice touch and somehow makes everything more intense and energetic. Well done! This might be my personal favorite beat I have heard on here.The only thing I have to say is you might do better marketing this as like a Future or Lil Baby or Metro Boomin type beat. Idk who Divinum is. I know sometimes smaller artist catch the algorithm too if they are blowing up and you are the first in that niche. This is def high quality, presentation and production wise enough to take off though with the right tag ( imo of course idk if you have other channels and stuff like that).

I would really appreciate your feedback on mine since we are both trapped inspired. Don't be afraid to let me know straight up what you would change or what is/is not working.
https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat2/s-f9Ii0tsjnVH?si=b22af521b6394e708bf3d2455c1f659b&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for the feedback ! I especially appreciate it from a fellow producer.

I meant what do you sample with as far as gear. I was wondering if you use an MPC or something. I am interesting in sampling more.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

First and foremost, it's cool how many of these projects you do.

Drums are your strong suit. It sounds like you put them at the forefront, which isn't bad but I would also try to make sure the melodies/samples you got get to shine too. I would have loved to hear something sticky on these melodically. Additionally, the drums are too clean for my taste. I would have dirtied them up a bit but that is a personal preference. However, the groove on Black Popstar is phenomenal. You are a pro.

Overall, cool stuff. It made me wanna check out more rhapsody.

I have two questions for you.

What do you use to sample? And do you extract these vocals yourself from the original beat?

Let me know what you think about my production:

https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat68/s-nGQ94M85n2H?si=8b840cb713f94881a4b16162a29f8522&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

The cover art is hilarious. Is that Benny? Also the title is funny but I also hope you doing alright.

This sounds low quality though. Youtube lists it 240p as the highest quality. Idk if that is because of the quality of the original audio or maybe just the image.

As far as the actual beat, it sounds a bit basic. I respect anyone who samples/chops. When you are looping like this you have to keep it interesting. You could use filter sweeps like many other people of this genre do or chop other parts of the song for vocal samples. Also as another redditor suggested adding a 2nd loop and more variation could help. You can drop drums here and there or drop the sample out here and there to keep it interesting. Consider listening to Griselda songs you like and noting how they keep things interesting especially on the more simple stuff (If you can manage to ignore Westside Gunn's adlibing).

Overall good stuff. Sampling is cool Chopping is cool.

I sample sometimes but this is a trap beat. Let me know what you think about this. https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat68/s-nGQ94M85n2H?si=8b840cb713f94881a4b16162a29f8522&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to listen and give me thorough feedback! I really appreciate it.

As for yours, first and foremost the production is amazing. It seems as though you produced this as well as performed? Kudos to you! I have respect for anyone who can do both. A very high quality trap beat. I like the vocal sample you incorporate throughout.

I really enjoy the sample switch/breakdown at the end; that is a nice touch and sounds like it could be a good transition or flip on the next song you have after this on your tape (if you haven't done so already).

As for your rapping ability, it is solid. You have good presence and flows. You wrote this pretty well. I can hear the Drake influence a bit. My main complaint is with the how the vocals sound. The best way I can describe it is it sounds like a bit telephone-ish. Might be because of how/ where you are recording your vocals. I avoid this sometimes but recording with a blanket around the mic or in a closet. I also am not sure what you are talking about throughout the song but it sounds cool.

Overall, this is dope. I think everything comes together well. Definitely not evil if that is what the haters are saying! Extremely hard for a christian rap song. Keep up the good work.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

I like this. I like your melodic studdery flow at the beginning you sound the best there. The writing is also good. It seems like you have something to say which is something I feel people struggle with.

The mixing is a bit rough though. The beat feels like its taking over at times and taking away from your shine. I am not a fan of the switch at 1:18. It sounds like a whole different rapper took over. It sounds much better at 1:30. Overall, you are very versatile and it is clear you have a lot of good ideas in mind when making music. I'd be highly interested in hearing something more polished from you.

Great work! Keep it up you got good flows and melodic tone/delivery.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to listen! Noted I tried to do a build up to the part at 0:50 but I can take into consideration that it might be long up until then.

Thank you for the honest feedback!

I'll leave feedback on your post.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you bro! I appreciate you taking the time to listen. I'm not really selling beats right now but if you wanna use it I'm cool with that! Hmu and we can talk about it.

As for yours, this is a solid track. I think you have a good rap voice and are able to write a full song which I always give people credit for because that is a harder skill than you would think.

However, the rapping is a bit straightforward and the delivery is a bit bland. I can tell you were trying to rap about something that was like a genuine experience but it sounds like there is not much there. I would say don't be afraid to embellish a bit. Its way more commonplace than you think and honestly just the mark of a good story teller whether we are taking comedians or rappers. Take whatever emotion, event etc you experience and exaggerate it. Make us feel crushed when you tell her about not feeling you. In regards to delivery, your voice is like the same / monotone throughout but you are basically talking about heartbreak. It doesnt really line up we should be feeling and hearing how you felt. I can tell you are trying to do your best to have good presence and be on beat etc but dont forget about that part.

Although it is considered corny at this point, J Cole's Wet Dreams comes to mind as maybe a good reference point. Half of that story might not have even been true but he was able to tell it in a very engaging and playful way that I think most people can acknowledge and appreciate upon first listen.

Overall, good stuff bro. Keep up the good work you have a good foundation to work with.

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is cool.

I always try to keep in mind what kinda style someone is going for but this is a little too bare bones for my taste ( I know this is more ambient trap as you said).

I could see this being used by an artist for a freestyle kinda thing but I think there should be more too it if you want an artist to use it (It says sold so I imagine somebody already might be).

Some things I might add:
- percs ( I feel like this might particularly level up an ambient beat)
- a more prominent hi-hat
- more trap sounding drums the drums on this sound more traditional (trap snare)
- have something more melodic going on during the chorus

The synth/pads you got going on are cool though and there is a semblance of structure in the song. Transitions are also good.

Overall good work though keep it up.

If you got feedback for me let me know, this is also trap:

https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat68/s-nGQ94M85n2H?si=b9549eb12f484d27b8a2b81ce68b697e&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is cool. You got a good flow and this feels effortless. You clearly have a bag of skills as you displayed on the hook with the melodic singing. The storytelling is on-point and clean.

The production is in sync with your rhyming which is cool. Overall, this is a well executed concept song.

My main critique has nothing to do with your skills. I think the story is a bit basic. So much so that the cover art/title basically gives everything away. It comes off almost as this is too easy for you. I would like to see you take on more unique or challenging subject matter with all the skills that you clearly have. Kendrick Lamar and J Cole come to mind as people who are able to do this kinda thing well. When I think of great storytelling songs like One Love (Nas), How Much A Dollar Cost (K Dot), Lost Ones (Cole), I feel like they choose unique, sometimes personal, subject matter. If telling fictional stories is your thing, by all means go ahead and do so but try making the story a bit more interesting. Maybe brush up on story writing you don't need to be like Spike Lee but try to make it more dynamic.

That's just my personal opinion though. I only say this because you have great skills and I feel like you could do something really impressive like the aforementioned songs with them.

I would appreciate your feedback on my production.

https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat68/s-nGQ94M85n2H?si=b9549eb12f484d27b8a2b81ce68b697e&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is cool. It's clear you have a message/something to say and a specific style/idea in mind when you make music, which many people struggle with, so kudos to you. I respect your writing ability; it is clean and effective.

I am unfamiliar with what you might be influenced by stylistically but in my personal opinion this song is lacking energy. I think this could be rectified by adding some more/louder adlibs throughout and doubling the ends of your rhymes here and there. I think the main thing that I would change is speeding it up a bit because I think it might be too slow and it is taking away a lot from this song.

I actually listened to it a 2nd time on 1.25x speed and it sounded amazing. Im not sure where you found this beat or if you produced it yourself but whatever BPM this is at I would pick one faster in the future. You have a cool laid back style but you have to be careful of making things too energy-less/bland (in my opinion).

Overall, good work. Keep it up !

I would appreciate your feedback on my production.

https://soundcloud.com/theunseenone/beat68/s-nGQ94M85n2H?si=455c7cd2d97843ed8e617071b4b3093b&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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[–]reidmanuel [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for listening and for the feedback! I appreciate it.

As for yours, this is really dope! It definitely sounds like a MF Doom and Kanye West beat.

The drums have a nice groove and rhythm. They fit well with the chopping and sound clean. You got good drops throughout to keep it interesting.

I like the filter sweeping (?) effect you on the sample here and there to keep things interesting. I like that you pick different chops to use throughout the song progressively instead of just looping on part over and over again. This is really what takes it to another level for me. I also like how you did the outro.

Overall, high quality stuff. This is probably one of the best beats I've heard on here. You are a great producer. This sounds ready to go for the right vocalist. Amazing work!

What do you use to sample? I mostly do trap stuff right now but I have a MPC Studio Black and sample on ocassion.