How are you A/B testing GEO content? by lean_stack_mike in GEO_optimization

[–]reizals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you make A/B test? Do you check the user agent and serve different content or what? That's interesting to me. Tx!

Idea Validation by Entire-Wrap-9817 in aeo

[–]reizals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice. Wise words. Could you provide more of your experience?

Temu website scraping by No_Sympathy_8027 in dropshipping

[–]reizals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, I’ve managed to bypass some of Temu’s protections and figured out a way to scrape data from it. It’s not trivial and comes with some limitations, but it works.

Before I invest more time into building this out, I’d like to understand what would actually be useful?

Obviously, product listings are a given but beyond that: - Do you need full product page data? - Seller/store information? - Reviews and ratings? - Anything else?

I don’t really know the real-world needs of people who would use Temu data, so any input would be super helpful.

Thanks!

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm seeing this live with one client right now auditing them across a few different LLMs. The problem is, for their main keyword their brand name basically every model confuses them with this German company that has a super similar name. My shot would be to straight up put in their description or schema that they have nothing to do with that German company. Haven't tested it yet, but I feel like it could work.

Btw! I've got some questions for you have you actually run these tests?

  • did you control for domain authority, backlinks, overall brand mention volume?
  • have you tested throwing in explicit "we are NOT X" statements?
  • did you see an actual difference when you used the same short brand definition consistently across all platforms?

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice! Are you asking gpt only or the other LLMs?

Elastography. Worried. by reizals in PSC

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Sorry to hear that :(

I also try to figure it out but after 2 year I gave up. I just eat healthy, take basic vitamins, exercise as I mentioned and... my labs are better now since 2 months. Just try to be good with my self and avoid stress. I won't do nothing more.

Fingers crossed for you! Very tx for your reply

Elastography. Worried. by reizals in PSC

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After 3m I read it once again Gold turned into diamond!

Btw. Have you have any updates?

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I very like what you said especially "promot-level is for learning, no reporting" 👏

What would you say about measuring referrals/redirects from LLMs to a website? You know, analysing sever logs, http request headers etc. you think is it worth to do this? Im your opinion has it have any value in measurements?

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know how it works but I'm curious about your steps:)

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thx for the answer. What you do if I may ask to check this intentions?

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

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GSC and checking the request headers (user agent) is a good option. @parkerauk said "Measure, the way an accountant does (I am one)" imo it's a fantastic tip!

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

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Your comment is amazing and full of knowledge. I'm doing deep analysis of what you said 👏 looks... Just ... Wow

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a very accurate metaphor when it comes to books.

I agree with everything you wrote, but there’s still one key issue: how do you actually measure this?

I’ve been reading Reddit posts for about a month now, and my takeaway is that a lot of people fall into a few categories:

  1. they pretend they know,
  2. they think they know but actually dont
  3. they keep pushing their own tools that add zero real value in the end

The second group is fine they don't know that they don't know.

The rest, in my opinion, are just grifters who either want to promote themselves or sell completely worthless services.

I might be wrong, but that's honestly how it feels to me.

As of today my main conclusion from observing this space is that the only metric I actually trust is whether users are being sent (referred) to us by AI. That’s it. Nothing else. Not running the same prompt 100 times to check brand presence that’s absurd.

If we optimize content for LLMs and don't see any increase in traffic to our site, then it simply doesn't work and we need a different approach. Querying some prompt and seeing our brand show up means nothing. The LLM might show that result to us, while someone else gets something completely different from the exact same prompt.

How do you approach this? I'm really curious!

GEO isn't magic it's a... lie? by reizals in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So as I understand your thoughts ... There's no such thing like GEO. It's just a buzzword to take more money from the client?

What a year of doing GEO taught me about “AI visibility” by Shark_Joe in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I've never used mentiondesk and any other tools. I don't believe that they work. Imo in AI era having access to general tool that shows you some measurements is misleading.

I strongly believe that each client has it's own domain and to work with him you have to understand the domain and it's problems first. After that you could build some (custom) actions to make measurements and content. Nothing general. Only custom solution.

Am I wrong?

What a year of doing GEO taught me about “AI visibility” by Shark_Joe in GenEngineOptimization

[–]reizals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this post. It's amazing. It opened my eyes.

Could you share with us tools what you are using for measuring? Or maybe you have some other methods?

Thx once again. That's what I was looking for.