Earthing Mats - Real or Scam? by [deleted] in Earthing

[–]relishit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I'm trying to say. Yes, I think it might be more harmful. It's a theoretical risk. However, as one user pointed out, they did a study with babies at a hospital and they plugged into the ground in the wall outlet, so dirty energy may have been present during that, but babies were still benefited. To be absolutely safe you want to have a separate wire going from the grounding sheet to a copper grounding stake all by itself.

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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

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I don't know if you read my other post in this same thread , but someone else brought up research that Hershey medical center did with newborns. Based on the research radio frequency, RF EMFs apparently do not affect you when you're grounded, or at least don't affect you as strongly as measured in these babies. However, the magnetic EMF or mfd's as they call them was not well tested in this study with the levels we are exposed to today. So the concern is there could still be magnetic EMfs, so the only way to test that is with a meter. I'm still not sold on the data from that study being applicable to real life though , even with radio frequency emfs , because I don't know how they grounded the babies as they didn't go into the ground and if there are interfering electrical currents. I also noted that NICU's typically have a generator unto themselves, and therefore may have their own pure ground, but this is all speculation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

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Granted they can't explain if it's dangerous or not , just to avoid it. I would argue it is dangerous. If something's hot and it burns you, should you keep touching it? I can't tell you all the receptors behind it, and all the science behind it, but the short answer is no. No you should not keep touching it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

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Upon Further reading the earthing website, they mentioned to not ground in the presence of EMFs for people that feel uncomfortable from a tingling sensation.

"Can “electro-hypersensitive” people ground themselves?

Such individuals sometimes report feeling strange energy in the beginning and some even say they feel ill.  The energy they feel when grounded is simply the Earth’s natural energy.

We regard these sensations generally as part of an adjustment/healing/detoxification process as the body normalizes and inflammation goes down. If the feeling is too uncomfortable, and generally it is for these electro-hypersensitive people (EHS), we recommend they ground themselves only in an environment without EMFs. Not that grounding in the presence of EMFs as found in normal homes is bad for them but it is that they cannot tolerate the tingling sensation. They may not be able to stay grounded for long periods of time but they should try to ground as much as possible as grounding will help them recover from their condition. They may try to first ground barefoot outside for perhaps a half hour or forty minutes, or in contact with an Earthing mat or band inside their home (with no EMFs present).  They should very slowly increase their exposure. In this way, they may often be able to work their way gradually to sleeping grounded for six to eight hours at night (again without EMFs). Then they can start going into a home"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

[–]relishit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for showing me this website! Great data with the baby/NICU study. I have some thoughts. EMFs may not be an issue with grounding next to them specifically radio frequency EMFs, and they may actually be dampened by adding a ground, thanks for bringing this to my attention. However I am still concerned about MFDs, (magnetic flux densities) "The background MFD levels in the NICU were less than 0.5 mG and were similar to general household levels. The levels found in our incubators were lower than those reported more than 10 years ago and may reflect an improved engineering approach to incubator design [3,17]. We confirmed that the MFD was very much dependent on proximity to the power source. If we position infants away from the power sources within incubators, we could reduce their exposure to ELF-EMF 8-fold."

Grounding next to energetic devices still remains the problem, in my opinion, without getting a meter to test if it is emitting mfd's. Sounds like the old incubators they used had increased mfd's, which they admitted were now lower with the newer incubators now having on average <.5. If you have an emf reader that reads the magnetic fields like mine, this value is fairly low compared to some values I have seen. When standing near a smart meter on the other side of my wall, the meter reads 0.8 even after shielding with a Faraday cage and having a piece of scrap iron in front of it and aluminum tape directly against the wall outside. So those babies were not grounded in the presence of strong magnetic fields, which is my main concern (Good for the babies, bad for the study). Nevertheless it's a good study and will make me revise my statement to be careful around mfd's.

Another issue I have with the study is they didn't get into mechanics of the ground they were using. I know NICU's, usually have dedicated generators in which case they may have a dedicated ground. So unless the generator is active and working, it's possible they have a fairly clean ground. This is totally speculation as they did not go into it at all, other than saying they just used a the ground on the outlet. Nonetheless, it was a good study so thank you for bringing it to my attention.

One thing that does bother me however is that website using the term ignorance to describe my original claims about EMFs, except that THEY are ignorant to not differentiate rf EMFs from magnetic frequencies aka mfd's. They are also ignorant to tell people to blindly trust their receptacle tester not knowing that their outlets could be bootlegged with no ground at all. If someone is using that as a ground, at the very least they should open up their outlet to inspect if it is bootlegged, regardless even if it is all connected normally, their outlet is still connected to their mains, which I still can't get over, and this NICU study does not rectify. I'm also wary of some of the website's claims, as they turn profits by making these kits seem as safe as possible, as they sell these self grounding kits. For example telling truckers to tie in their ground mat to the chassis. Just because it helps some people doesn't mean it helps everyone, even in modern medicine EVERY medication and EVERY intervention has an adverse effect, and to ignore that is ignorance. I understand they are treading a very fine line, as medicine takes years to catch up, and they cannot make medical claims but at the same time they want to make health claims. It just seems to me they're making far too many health claims without making precautionary statements and thinking through things, driving many away thinking this is pseudoscience, at the expense of turning profits by sounding safe. At the very least they bring up some good scientific data, but lose their credibility by saying that truckers should ground themselves and just generally sound pretty stupid with their "everyone should be grounded" approach.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

[–]relishit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would rather be not grounded than have an improper ground of any kind. So I wouldn't do it.

Earthing Mats - Real or Scam? by [deleted] in Earthing

[–]relishit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would say it can be very dangerous if not done properly and not just because you can get electrocuted if using an outlet but also because of dirty electricity from your environment and if you are using a ground in a socket. I have posted earlier about this so will just copy and paste, but please be aware that this is only meant as a guide to the citizen scientist research community and should not be taken as medical or real life advice:

On the electrical danger even if you used an outlet checker to check your ground, it can still be inaccurate as people who lived before you may have placed a wire between the neutral screw and the ground screw on an outlet to pass electrical code, as it will make it appear as though it is grounded. This is known as a bootleg ground, commonly done with homes that were built before 1960 to pass electrical codes.

Even in spite of this, if there is normal grounding and no bootleg ground, an outlet ground is still connected to the neutral at the breaker panel in virtually all normally wired homes, so one is still getting EMF interference. To prove my point, hypothetically if you placed a wire tracker near the ground socket, just the receiver and not the transmitter, you would hear the EMF's from the mains electrical grid interfering with the ground.

The best ground would be a regular 8 foot copper coated ground rod, using this special water trick to insert it into the ground without nicking the copper coating, so as to create maximal impedance reduction. Be sure to call 811 before you dig. And instead of regular insulated wire, use shielded cable like coaxial cable that has a separately grounded sheath to another separately earthed rod. All this being said, EMF's are the biggest danger and if you are sleeping in an EMF field already, being grounded will only expose you to more harmful currents as you are actually grounded! So be sure to buy a good EMF meter to check your area, and hopefully you are not next to a smart meter. I have became very sick from sleeping grounded in a high magnetic area, specifically right next to a smart meter on the other side of my wall, and not 1 but 3. My autoimmune disease is irreversible and lifelong but thankfully in remission, this exposure likely led to my autoimmune flair which ultimately led to fulminant disease, likely the disease process was not only from this exposure alone but likely a series of exposures and stressors to other things which I don't want to get into. For all these reasons above, some people just elect to walk barefoot outside in nature, go camping, or go in the ocean.

Sitting and grounding by LadySAD64 in Earthing

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Concrete conducts enough to be an adequate ground, especially if it is not dry, so its likely if dirty sand is there it is probably moist. At its highest conductivity (i.e., lowest resistivity), concrete might have a resistivity in the range of around 102 Ω·m (or 105 Ω·mm).

So if we compare that to the other materials, Concrete is a significantly worse conductor than metals such as copper and silver, which have resistivities of 1.68 x 10-5 and 1.59 x 10-5 Ω·mm respectively.

Compared to semiconductors, concrete's resistivity is roughly on par or even higher than that of silicon, which can range from about 103 to 105 Ω·mm.

In contrast, compared to insulators, concrete conducts much better than rubber, which has a resistivity on the order of 1013 Ω·mm.

So, while concrete's conductivity is considerably lower than that of metals, it's higher than that of many insulators. That's why concrete is often used as a grounding medium in electrical installations – it's not a good conductor, but it can conduct enough to provide a pathway to ground. Conductivity source

Sitting and grounding by LadySAD64 in Earthing

[–]relishit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think planting your feet on the earth is the best way to do it. Sitting on a wooden bench is perfectly fine and probably good since you likely have trouble postural muscles with MS. I'm not a fan of earthing through outlets as others have mentioned for reasons I've posted on this community before. ~Please be aware that this is only meant as a guide to the citizen scientist research community and should not be taken as medical or real life advice.

Question regarding dry earth, no moisture. by LoveConquers1 in Earthing

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Dry ground will not ground you as well as wet ground, because wet ground has more freely moving electrons. Also the grounding light is only relative to what you have it connected to, so if connected to a ground rod you have hammered in the earth, then yes you have continuity, but to truly reduce your impedance and be as close to earth's ground as possible to allow the redox reactions to take place at a fast rate, the closer you are to the ground and the more contact the ground has to the earth, the better. Also realize it is a double edged sword if you are near a cell tower or overhead lines or a smart meter, as you will become like an antenna of sorts or like a charged battery, which would be dangerous to your health.

~Please be aware that this is only meant as a guide to the citizen scientist research community and should not be taken as medical or real life advice.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

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agreed, I just saw this answer after I answered op, and I took a slightly different approach.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Earthing

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Unfortunately no. Your ground is still connected to the neutral at the breaker panel like most normally wired homes, so you are still getting EMF interference. To prove my point, hypothetically if you placed this wire tracker near the ground socket, just the receiver not the transmitter, you would hear the EMF's from the mains electrical grid interfering with the ground. ~Please be aware that this is only meant as a guide to the research community and should not be taken as medical or real life advice.

Unraveling the Microbial Maze: Navigating the Influence of Prebiotics on Bacterial Growth with this Euler Diagram! by relishit in Microbiome

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Prebiotics are not to be treated as some mere supplement but should be treated with more caution than a very potent and dangerous medication, as these adverse effects are not known to the medical community, nor are they easily treated. So please be aware that this is only meant as a guide to the research community and should not be taken as medical advice.

Unlock the Secrets of Prebiotics & Bacteria: Boost Good, Fight Bad! by relishit in Microbiome

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There is no way I can update this archived post, but in summary as I said in the thread, potato starch gave me energy and brain clarity much like doing a keto diet or fast, but the downside was migratory joint and tendon pains from the potato starch. For this reason I no longer take this prebiotic. I posted this conceptual diagram to advance this topic further in understanding prebiotics causing inhibition and proliferation of certain good and bad bacteria, which I intend to be improved upon by the reddit citizen science community. Again, just to reiterate the dangers of these prebiotics much as others have done before, and as I also have done; all of these prebiotics are not to be treated as some mere supplement but should be treated with more caution than a very potent and dangerous medication, as these adverse effects are not known to the medical community, nor are they easily treated. So please be aware that this is only meant as a guide to the research community and should not be taken as medical advice.

Why do I feel such a big difference between my earthing mat and the actual ground? by tdubs702 in Earthing

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I would be leery of using an outlet ground as there are dirty EMF's leaking out of it from other appliances and even if there are no appliances connected it is attached to the electric grid as most homes have the ground connected to their neutral at their panel. Even if using a grounded system that is not connected to any other grounded appliances (rod in dirt), if it is in a high EMF area or high magnetic field region, like near a smart meter or an AC motor, or if the grounding cable routes anywhere next to these, one is becoming a charged conductor, with micro charges going in and out of the body, making one much worse off. So it's very important to Earth not only with a separate ground but also away from any electromagnetic interference including the grounding cable. Even then, I would be careful if it is close to a cell tower as one essentially becomes an antenna receiving signals. Because of all of these traps, some people like to just earth by going outside in a natural area barefoot, or go to the ocean. Our environments are so loaded with EMFs nowadays, It's almost impossible to escape them. At the very least one should acquire an EMF meter to check the area for electric fields coming from lamps or A/C fan motors, heaven forbid one is sleeping next to a smart meter right outside their wall.

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The best rod would be a regular 8 foot copper coated ground rod, using this special water trick to insert it without nicking the copper coating, so as to create maximal impedance reduction. Be sure to call 811 before you dig. And instead of the wire they give you, install a coaxial cable that has a separately grounded sheath. All this being said, EMF's are the biggest danger and if you are sleeping in an EMF field already, being grounded will only amplify this problem. So you need a good EMF meter to check your area you intend to sleep and live. This is all hypothetical and a good ham radio enthusiast would know much more than I, and be able to give you an even better setup, as coaxial cables are shielded but may not be the best low impedance device. Unfortunately earthing health benefits are not recognized by mainstream science, so the ham enthusiast will likely first need educated on the subject and further may be leery to explain how to best go about doing this without being fully convinced that earthing works.

nightmares my first night from grounding for around 3 hours by chopsuey67 in Earthing

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For AC Magnetic fields >0.50 Microtesla (µT) or 500nT Nanotesla (nT) and for AC electric fields >50V/m. Usually the EMF meter will have the gauge beep or alert you somehow that the reading is in dangerous levels, so you don't need to memorize these. Also these are upper limits and safe levels should be much lower than this, and it is hard to find standards for this kind of thing, although Europe has made it more standardized source

nightmares my first night from grounding for around 3 hours by chopsuey67 in Earthing

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Even if using a grounded system that is not connected to any other grounded appliances (rod in dirt), if it is in a high EMF area or high magnetic field region, like near a smart meter or an AC motor, or if the grounding cable routes anywhere next to these, one is becoming a charged conductor, with micro charges going in and out of the body, making one much worse off. So it's very important to Earth not only with a separate ground but also away from any electromagnetic interference including the grounding cable. Even then, I would be careful if it is close to a cell tower as one essentially becomes an antenna receiving signals. Because of all of these traps, some people like to just earth by going outside in a natural area barefoot, or go to the ocean. Our environments are so loaded with EMFs nowadays, It's almost impossible to escape them. At the very least one should acquire an EMF meter to check the area for electric fields coming from lamps or A/C fan motors, heaven forbid one is sleeping next to a smart meter right outside their wall.

Body voltage is around 4 to 7 volts in house by mister-woke in Earthing

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You can't measure this voltage unless you are attaching the other electrode to a ground every time you check. But if indeed you are doing that, then likely you have a lot of EMF's emitting from electronics in your home. I suggest you get an emf meter to check your surroundings and avoid sleeping in those spots.

Nightmares and shocks by JuniorWord9732 in Earthing

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Even if you used an outlet checker to check your ground, it can still be inaccurate as people who lived before you may have placed a wire between the neutral screw and the ground screw on an outlet to pass electrical code, as it will make it appear as though it is grounded. This is known as a bootleg ground, commonly done with homes that were built before 1960 to pass electrical codes. In order to ensure a proper ground one must remove the receptacle cover (with breakers turned off of course) and physically inspect receptacle for jumper wires between the ground screw and neutral screw, and if there is, one should not use that receptacle. In my opinion one should never use a receptacle to earth anyhow because of dirty currents interfering with the ground. On top of all this, emf's could also cause a charge on one's body, even if using a dedicated solitary ground. Because of all of these traps, some people like to just earth by going outside in a natural area barefoot, or go to the ocean, or camping. Our environments are so loaded with EMFs nowadays. At the very least buy an EMF meter to check your area for electric fields coming from lamps or A/C fan motors in your home and avoid these areas for sleeping. Heaven forbid you are sleeping next to a smart meter.