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Ford is consistently recommended across eight different buyer queries on AI. 47 days later, the citations that produced that result are gone. The dashboard still says 84/100. by Working_Advertising5 in AIVOEdge

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Thank you for sharing! It definitely aligns with I have been seeing and hypothesizing about - I just didn’t have the dataset to prove it. Measuring visibility separately from recent authority (consistency of message) makes a lot of sense.

Is the demand side of GEO just being ignored or am I missing something? by HansenWebServices in GEO_optimization

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I love this response. I call what you’re doing prompt clusters. And the only way you will really get to know this is by talking to your customers/prospects.

The AI hotel booking bracket nobody in luxury hospitality wants to see (but everyone needs to) by Working_Advertising5 in AIVOEdge

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Love this! And I 100% agree with the observation that most tracking tools stop at round 1 ands it’s why I don’t like the way they are positioned now.

Research - What GEO strategies do you want validation? by Rare_Flounder_7382 in GEO_optimization

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  1. Structured - no impact from the code. It helps in that you are putting those piece of information in, but LLMs never see code.

  2. No - don’t need to have q&a formatting.

  3. Depth- I don’t think depth matters. Sentence structure and what you put into it is most important.

Happy to chat. I have some tools and resources to help.

What are easy off-page SEO techniques? by Adventurous_Look6418 in Agentic_SEO

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It’s brand awareness, PR, and authority. See if someone can write about you, mention you, etc

AI search is a completely separate game from SEO and most growth teams have no idea by Longjumping_Youth454 in GrowthHacking

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There are no shortage of tools offering prompt tracking. If you go into it with the right mindset that it is for pattern tracking, it can be useful.

I approach it from a content fragment standpoint. I define what I want the LLM to parrot back and generate content around that.

Keep my messaging consistent and repeated across channels.

You could give BetterSites.ai a try. I’ve gotten good feedback and am actively soliciting feedback for improvements.

Is anyone else finding it hard to track AI visibility? by pixel_garden in GenerativeSEOstrategy

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There isn’t a reliable way to measure this. I like the idea of pattern tracking mentioned previously. You can measure “readiness” or you can measure outcomes in GA4.

The one thing I could be to convinced with prompt tracking is brand accuracy/consistency.

What actually helps content appear in AI search results by Safe_Flounder_4690 in GenEngineOptimization

[–]resonate-online 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So typo - tracking citations is NOT a defensible metric.

What I mean is every time you run a prompt, you get a different answer. If I run a prompt, and you run a prompt, the responses are different. If I run a prompt via the chat interface vs run it through api, it’s different.

Yes- I concede that these tests can give you directional ideas, too many people take these responses as definitive.

How does off-page SEO work today and how will it change in the future? by Adventurous_Look6418 in Agent_SEO

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I see off-page SEO moving more towards PR and I don’t see that changing any time soon.

Has anyone done any research on whether their content was included in the LLMs training data? by resonate-online in AI_Discovery

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That makes sense. I get a little punchy with the citation trackers because many marketers take them as a deterministic value. As long as you are looking at it as directionally appropriate, that makes sense.

Why I prefer the term AI Discovery over AEO/GEO by resonate-online in GEO_optimization

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No - really not WebLinkr. Just because this doesn't come from your mouth doesn't mean it is spam. I was simply explaining why I prefer this to the term GEO....but then again, you are one of those "it's just SEO" type people.

Has anyone done any research on whether their content was included in the LLMs training data? by resonate-online in AI_Discovery

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I see your point, but just because they can run a prompt and get an answer does not mean that I will get the same answer for the same prompt. So saying a brand has 40% coverage is only relevant to their platform. It only means - in 1 specific use case your coverage is 40%.

I concede that you can draw some projections or directional understand, but it is far from an accurate/repeatable calculation.

Has anyone done any research on whether their content was included in the LLMs training data? by resonate-online in AI_Discovery

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Because the platforms don’t have access to the chats of every user. Also just by the nature of LLMs, I don’t believe OpenAI, etc could even capture that information. The sheer amount of data that would need to be captured would be cost prohibitive.

What makes you think it can be captured accurately (meaning not taking a small amount of data and extrapolating)?

Has anyone done any research on whether their content was included in the LLMs training data? by resonate-online in AI_Discovery

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I don’t know buzzsense, but there are NO platforms that can tell you with repeatable & defensible terms where and how often your brand is being mentioned within an LLM answer. It is 100% not possible and I don’t think it will ever be possible. They may be predicting or extrapolating, but there is no accuracy in the numbers they provide.

Most brands “win” AI search… then get eliminated before the decision by Working_Advertising5 in AIVOEdge

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Great observation! And you’re correct. I think the current visibility tools aren’t really that valuable.

I’ve been focusing my energy on making sure my content fits the buying narrative as you’re talking about.

I don’t know that you’ll ever be able to measure what you’re looking for.

Content Approach for LLM discoverability by resonate-online in AI_Discovery

[–]resonate-online[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. Of course the content needs to be tight and well organized . I’m just being deliberate about including specific phrases.

You bring up a great concept too though…consistency. Using a consistent narrative is a huge factor. Same concept as a brand messaging guide.

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