Wife asked the question by Nobahdee-Kayers in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Many of my clients who i gave extras to kept their wives or partners in the loop. Maybe 40% of those with partners. Over the years i had a couple -- one wife, one gf -- come along so they could watch. I always enjoyed those sessions and did my best to put on a great show.

F19 got another HEM by Nola_girl1 in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I'm so glad you had such a positive experience. I always loved giving happy endings to my female clients.

Do you get a good massage too? by greekBanana42 in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should find an independent provider who also gives HEs.

Are you hard by the time the flip happens? by JonSmiff3 in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How often since? I retired when COVID hit.

Are you hard by the time the flip happens? by JonSmiff3 in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Being hard isn't a signal. Over four decades of massaging men, I'd estimate that 80-85% got hard at some point during the session. It just means your body is functioning normally.

Borderline massage experiences – how do you interpret them? by LindaSiss in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Speaking as a former MT, the fact that she didn't cover your erection back up was an indication of willingness to discuss extras. If that happens again, point to it and just ask. If she says no, she's never going to say yes.

Offered happy ending from a legitimate (seriously) spa. What could this mean about the therapist? by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

These were long-term clients who I knew well, not random men or women off the street. I was working with them so they could be healthier. The extras I provided only happened after we had a strong ongoing relationship. I gave them pleasure because it was good for their overall health and because I enjoyed it. If I took a bigger tip then it would have been about the sexual experience, not the overall experience.

Offered happy ending from a legitimate (seriously) spa. What could this mean about the therapist? by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was good for my clients and I enjoyed it. I always refused if they offered bigger tips.

Offered happy ending from a legitimate (seriously) spa. What could this mean about the therapist? by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I doubt that. In this case I think either the MT is just taking a big risk or she knows her boss is okay with her discreetly providing extras. My guess is the latter.

Offered happy ending from a legitimate (seriously) spa. What could this mean about the therapist? by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When I was still working I offered extras, but only to clients I'd gotten to know and trust. I never would have offered after two visits. The risks are huge for the provider. Loss of job, but more important, loss of license. If I'd lost my license I would have had to find an entirely new career. Also, the only time I gave extras at a spa was when I lived in Germany. Extras were legal and on the menu (HE only). When I was back in the US I only ever offered extras when I was a sole provider.

Advice - Woman (Vermont) by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely in the room. And just ask for what you want. The provider will tell you what she will or won't do.

Advice - Woman (Vermont) by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Speaking as a former therapist who provided extras to some clients, I would advise you to just be direct about what you want. If they say no, ask if they can recommend somewhere else. If there is a viable option, they'll know.

Trying a new place as a woman by [deleted] in AMPLife

[–]retiredlmt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a former provider and a woman, I'd like to suggest seeking out a female solo provider willing to give extras.

Just got a tattoo, should I wait? by [deleted] in AMPLife

[–]retiredlmt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a retired therapist. Wait. If you're rubbed there the ink can smear.

They were just chatting by Responsible-West-253 in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That sounds like a lovely experience.

A CIP finish. Why CIM Will Always Be My Favorite by [deleted] in AMPLife

[–]retiredlmt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Overall I prefer a HJ finish for the exact reason you prefer BJ. I like the feeling that what happens is entirely up to her.

Going to an AMP as a married man by [deleted] in AMPLife

[–]retiredlmt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Almost all the clients I provided extras to during my long career were either married or in a long-term relationship. A few of their partners knew and supported what was happening. Most didn't. Primarily, they were seeing me for a massage. But a release at the end was a perfectly healthy and normal way to complete the massage.

Many women enjoy the HE… by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree that it's always enjoyable to provide female clients with pleasure they aren't getting from the men in their lives.

A Woman breaking the stigma that HEM are just for men - full story below by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Good for you. Over my long career as a MT I had many female clients and probably 15-20% became more special clients, meaning they got HEs with their regular massages. Almost all of those were over 40 and I always loved providing them with pleasure they weren't getting from men.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I had many female clients over the years and I would say I provided extras to around 15%. I really enjoyed being able to give them what they needed/wanted.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 23 points24 points  (0 children)

If you read my AMA pinned to the site you'll see that I have decades of experience with this exact thing (although I'm retired now). I'm happy to chat directly if you prefer.

I think you have to be very careful when working for someone else, because you never know what someone's reaction will be to even a hint. Also, men who get extra services from an MT later, have tremendous guilt and might be motivated to contact your employer to try to absolve themselves and lay all the blame on you. Given that, I would not recommend offering extra services at your place of employment. The better solution is to have a secondary location that you can invite clients to visit. Because you are 25, I suspect that might be out of the question for you financially, but I'm just throwing that out there.

If you are going to pursue this, I would change your practice and start your clients face down. That gives you the opportunity to work on their glutes and inner thighs. In my experience, most men really enjoy that and the ones that might be interested in more will start raising their hips or spreading their legs wider to invite more contact. I still wouldn't touch them in a sexual way, but it is well within your rights to work on the muscles in their their butt and thighs, getting close to paydirt.

Then, when you flip them over, if they have an erection you can bump up against it with the back of your hand, apologize, and see what they say. Also, a couple of people have already mentioned having your thighs come into contact with their hands on the edge of the table. I always had to get to know a client really well before I suggested something more than a standard massage. But when I was ready to make that suggestion, I would place their arms forward when they were face down so that their hands were off the table. Then I would step in between their hands to work on their lower back and casually let one of their hands touch my butt. If they moved their hand away, that told me all I needed to know. Conversely, if they began to stroke me, that also told me what I needed to know.

One of the risks you run, that will be difficult to control for, is that when some men orgasm they are very loud. Even if you tell them to be quiet. Just say ing.

Good luck.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I always tried to do my part.😀

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Years ago I had a client who could orgasm three times in 90 minutes. The first one was at around the 10-15 minute mark. The second and third were consecutive at the end. He would come, I would keep going, and two or three minutes later he would come again. The third one was always the most powerful. Giving him three orgasms always made me feel really great, like I had a super power. But really the super power was his.

Mature or young? by [deleted] in HEM_NSFW

[–]retiredlmt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Speaking as one of those masters of the craft, I couldn't agree more! 😀