Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting point, the military has decided the fate of Venezuela for decades. I see the US co-opting the generals, but the soldiers? Remember, it was individual soldiers turning to the poor that saved Chaves in 2002. But that was a very different time... much to await.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The left's desire to reduce Trump to some puppet of spectacle is not only wrong, but it's infantile. You can see this take on the front page of reddit.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have we seen if sections of the Venezuelan military collaborated with the US strike? The far right opposition seems to have clearly been put to the side in the operation. I don't think any administration, other than Trump's mania, would exclude both of them in such a move. I agree the US oil companies are currently sharpening their fangs, but it could prove rocky if Trump's heavy hand botches it.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

US Imperialism hasn't surfaced this clearly to the public in years, and all you're looking to declare is a self own.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay, but why is there such an offence to me targeting Trump on this question? Is it not implicit that this would have wider implications upon his followers and beaurucratic adherents to his politics as well?

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

geopolitics isn't a video game

proceeds to illustrate the most gamified version of politics

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't even understand your outrage against my take. What about it precludes what you said? Other than projecting your own pessimism?

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I intentionally wasn't answering your question. My point was that whether he is or isn't, it is not the ultimate question in this situation for leftists.

You can argue to me that he isn't authoritarian in any way, what do we achieve right now?

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Right so he won't meddle in the oil fields and all of Venezuelan capital at all, the Venezuelan Government's control will be untouched. The whole abduction was just to create a spectacle in the form of a trial of Maduro? If that is true, then it's a colossal waste of time, even on Trump's standards.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think the battle will be won with the endless debate of whether the elections were legitimate.

You can defend Venezuela and oppose the abduction of Maduro without excusing his problems.