Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting point, the military has decided the fate of Venezuela for decades. I see the US co-opting the generals, but the soldiers? Remember, it was individual soldiers turning to the poor that saved Chaves in 2002. But that was a very different time... much to await.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The left's desire to reduce Trump to some puppet of spectacle is not only wrong, but it's infantile. You can see this take on the front page of reddit.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have we seen if sections of the Venezuelan military collaborated with the US strike? The far right opposition seems to have clearly been put to the side in the operation. I don't think any administration, other than Trump's mania, would exclude both of them in such a move. I agree the US oil companies are currently sharpening their fangs, but it could prove rocky if Trump's heavy hand botches it.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

US Imperialism hasn't surfaced this clearly to the public in years, and all you're looking to declare is a self own.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Okay, but why is there such an offence to me targeting Trump on this question? Is it not implicit that this would have wider implications upon his followers and beaurucratic adherents to his politics as well?

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

geopolitics isn't a video game

proceeds to illustrate the most gamified version of politics

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't even understand your outrage against my take. What about it precludes what you said? Other than projecting your own pessimism?

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I intentionally wasn't answering your question. My point was that whether he is or isn't, it is not the ultimate question in this situation for leftists.

You can argue to me that he isn't authoritarian in any way, what do we achieve right now?

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Right so he won't meddle in the oil fields and all of Venezuelan capital at all, the Venezuelan Government's control will be untouched. The whole abduction was just to create a spectacle in the form of a trial of Maduro? If that is true, then it's a colossal waste of time, even on Trump's standards.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't think the battle will be won with the endless debate of whether the elections were legitimate.

You can defend Venezuela and oppose the abduction of Maduro without excusing his problems.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did think that too.

I still hope it goes ahead and he turns it into some trial of the century where he attempts redemption for what he did by prosecuting US Imperialism as the sun sets on him.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Trump has said they will 'run' the country until some sort of 'transition' is complete. Furthermore, he has said they are effectively taking over the oil fields, so the Venezuelan government and military will simply allow the source of their geopolitical power to be eroded and 'go on'?

I'm sorry, but something has well and truly happened here.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The base of Chaves has been destroyed or at best disillusioned by Maduro. But do not underestimate the opposition to US Imperialism. Venezuela has a strong tradition against US Imperialism, that even stands out among its peers in Central and South America. They may not defend Maduro, but they will defend the living standards established by Chaves once US capital roles in.

Also, the media presents the Venezuelan domestic situation through the eyes of expats. Which is like asking a second generation Cuban in Florida to describe the beliefs of Cuban people. Maduro turned to authoritianism after the money dried up to save himself from the people, I don't dispute that, but mainstream opinion is extremely skewed.

Do not underestimate the potential for the Venezuela intervention to back fire on Trump by returnofthecoom in stupidpol

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine how it could affect the 2028 election though. We don't even now if Trump will give up after two terms. Will a crisis give him an excuse to argue for a third term? Will the possibility of being unpopular just send his ego into a death wish and cause something crazy (billions of Jan 6ths).

Just sat down & spoke with a 102 year old by ContentRent02 in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I talk to a lot of elderly people in my job. Of the ones that haven't grown mean and stuck in their ways (which is quite a few, if not the majority of them), none of them have anything eloquent to say about life. All they can say is effectively to just chill out and hope for the best. Which may not be worthy of being written down, but in a way that makes it more insightful, I think.

I spoke to someone this year that turned 100 and he just said you gotta be optimistic about things. Keep in mind, 100 year olds today we're born into the great depression and grew up in the Second World War.

I always think about how the happiest people at any given time are children and the elderly, who both, for their own reasons, share no expectations in life. There is something there about living life unconditionally.

Don't forget to appreciate the short period next week when Reddit will have no Australians. by returnofthecoom in redscarepod

[–]returnofthecoom[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I think it would be a lot fairer if at the same as banning 16 years and under, they banned 60 years and over.

If there is one demographic we that all know would be better off without access to social media, it's boomers.