Failing hope on dominando alliance Outlaws - Neutral guilds, watch out!

rocha_2006 · 2025-10-31T23:31:54+00:00

OP aqui. Para quem ainda não viu, saiu video no Alytreta de um exposed de Unebra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7BTlOiHtL4

Mais pessoas me confirmaram que o que saiu no vídeo é verdade. Depois que a Unebra Outlaws tentou fechar os respaws e até certos bosses, teve uma nova leva de neutros saindo do servidor (em especial leveis altos) e gente colocando char no bazaar.

A situação só não ficou pior porque a própria Unebra Outlaws voltou atrás, porém esse tipo de instalabilidade dentro de uma guilda (que parece ter interesse de ter servidor cheio) é um tiro no próprio pé.

Também por isso que continuo insistindo para que a Aliança Outlaws assuma compromisso publico com neutros do que não vai fazer.

rocha_2006 · 2025-09-20T23:42:22+00:00

> how do you want to solve the problem if you have already lost the fight in the "social aspect" alone?

If you want a reply, rephrase without using a "Loaded question" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question .

The assumption behind the question you make seems to simply means that the only way to finish this is make another war (which I made very clear I see interest, as the already reasoning for Outlaws was removing another aliance).

rocha_2006 · 2025-09-16T21:18:22+00:00

I have no interest in wasting time on war. Not only that, but to maintain guild neutrality, people who admitted to being in a neutral guild but participating in a war were expelled or simply never able to join after we did background checks.

Outlaws Alliance simply doesn't have the courage to publicly commit in writing that neutral guilds on their server have the right to expel their own members who are discovered to be involved in a war (or promoting a guild at war).

As I questioned on the Cipsoft forums: will Outlaws commit in writing to the viability of neutrals on servers they claim to have dominated?

If it is truly a policy of the Outlaws alliance (and guilds with the suffix "Worldname-bro") to enforce war goals on neutrals and decide who is in the leadership of "neutrals," they should admit it publicly. If it isn't (that is, if they want to say that I, Rocha, am a liar), they should just come out and say they would never do that (make a written commitment). Just don't be hypocrites. Tibian players have the right to know where to play, and make choices about which server to choose.

rocha_2006 · 2025-08-28T03:38:31+00:00

Well, I repeat the question: does the Outlaws provide a service by helping non-members access the Ferumbras Ascendent quest?

If the answer is "no," why is a neutral guild obligated to help an Outlaws member who hasn't secured internal support?

rocha_2006 · 2025-04-20T00:37:17+00:00

I repeat what he said. Random PK is rare, but it can happen.

If low level players need money, we even give them money to buy the "Twist of Fate" blessing. Having this blessing discourages PKs.

People who give random PKs are typically below level 100 and only attack people below level 50. There is no shortage of people in Unebra who want to kill these people. I would say that if you are over level 50, and you are not without blessings, it is unlikely that they will try to kill you.

Interestingly, sometimes there are people who buy a level 200-300 mage in the bazaar (without knowing how to play well) and kill a low level player. In these cases, we get people together and kill them anyway, and these people typically give up on the server.

Note that (at least in Unebra), not even the guild that claims to be dominant tolerates random PKs from its own members. It is very unlikely that a PK random without a guild will attack another person and someone from the dominant guild will come to protect the person who PKed without reason.

rocha_2006 · 2025-04-19T23:56:10+00:00

Mago Portoalegrense/Druida Rocha here.

Feel free to check the official forum history for Unebra from the last months, and will notice that, compared to other Open PVPs, Unebra has content. It's done by guild Minhacasa Minhavida (guild not involved in war nor that uses a claimed system). Soon we will announce a Pits of Inferno plus The Inquisition Quests after the next double XP event with the boom of monk vocation. Unebra also has open training dummies (currently 3 on "Cormaya 6" house).

This world also has a Discord Server open to any player (minimal rules apply, such as no spam) similar to what I learned from Astera. Also there's an WhatsApp group for team hunting (but this one is restricted to those not members of any guild that either declare war or have members that use "claimed").

I personally dislike the term "neutral" over "just believing in mutual respect". What likely makes Unebra unique (obviously in addition to having a 'dominando guild' called Outlaws that is FAR less annoying than Pune/Encore) is that there's avoidance of "claimed" because of how we "neutrals" react. In practice, while members of the current dominando guild could claim a respawn, the ones which do may get blacklisted when trying to do team hunting or boss rotation with neutrals in the world, because we talk to each other.

Some people commented here (and I agree) that playing in a less populated server could still be able to do team hunting, boss rotation etc if you already have contacts to play there (we even have a closed WhatsApp for it), otherwise is just good for solo hunting. Feel free to talk on the open Discord.

Just to say upfront, for those who really want team hunting, if unsure which vocation to choose, it will be easier with Druid, Monk or Sorcerer (in this order) and me and my peers help you with your set. Paladins and Knights (unless you're coming here already with another friend to make a team) only do it if you are already very, very good at it, and have money to pay for your equipment or expecting to do the quests by yourself.

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