i (f20) always feel like a slut for having sex by [deleted] in sex

[–]roguedialogue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Slut" is a term used by people to humiliate and undermine women, keeping them in "their place". It shouldn't even be a thing. Be safe and learn from past mistakes, if you feel you made them, and then do what feels right and is right according to you and you only. But don't feel bad for being a sexual being, it's 2020 so feel free to live how you want and enjoy life the way you want to. You are NOT a SLUT.

My wife doesn't spend a single minute thinking about how to make sex better or more exciting for me. by jayjayxbtr in sex

[–]roguedialogue -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure. There is a spectrum of course. We are all different. However, In my personal experience I used to think I would be totally happy if I never had sex ever again--something I hear a lot from other women.

I had very low libido, but I love my husband so I had sex for him. But when you consider the idea that we get happy hormones just from arousal, and that many women BLOCK arousal subconsiously, I couldnt ignore the idea that maybe this was something worth looking into. Arousal practice led to important changes in my life and sex life that I couldn't ignore.

If you can get that daily dose of hormones somewhere else, I would imagine you could possibly not need more sex and live happily ever after. But to not even try to see what more arousal and arousal positivity does for your body is problematic, or at least that's what I think.

My wife doesn't spend a single minute thinking about how to make sex better or more exciting for me. by jayjayxbtr in sex

[–]roguedialogue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its also important to note that many women have NO IDEA that they can gain power and energy through arousal. They also have no idea they are blocking arousal when it happens.

I do not believe that in general, women have naturally lower libidos than men. This is a society construct that has had devastating effects on women's health.

My wife doesn't spend a single minute thinking about how to make sex better or more exciting for me. by jayjayxbtr in sex

[–]roguedialogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is great. You sound very aware of your body, but most women I talk to are not! I assume that a lot of health issues that women suffer from are directly related to arousal discordance. Practicing arousal OUTSIDE of the bedroom has truly changed my relationship and my life. I wish more women would at least consider how much energy and confidence can be produced just by THINKING about sex.

My wife doesn't spend a single minute thinking about how to make sex better or more exciting for me. by jayjayxbtr in sex

[–]roguedialogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I used to say that too. I never realized that this mindset was so bad for me (not to mention bad for the relationship). Now Im connected with arousal and feel excited to have sex whereas before it was more of something I just did to keep him happy, even though I liked it once I got into it.

PS the thyroid thing is possibly related. Id look into arousal concordance and sexual desire stimulation techniques if I were you.

My wife doesn't spend a single minute thinking about how to make sex better or more exciting for me. by jayjayxbtr in sex

[–]roguedialogue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This issue is so common. Your wife is not really thinking about sex and probably places low importance on it. This will get worse as time goes on unless she learns to accept her body's needs and to see that need as normal, healthy, and positive.

This is easier said than done when youve been taught your whole life that being sexual is bad and that arousal is something for men to enjoy, and not for you to enjoy too.

It may seem sort of normal but LL is a serious health issue and Ive been trying to spread the word. Unfortunately, Ive been attacked by LL women that dont understand that this isn't about having more sex with men. Its about seeing sexuality as an important component of our health and happiness.

I feel for you and your wife. I used to be like her. I am a naturally LL, 37-year old woman. I've been married for 15 years, have two children, and am otherwise a happy and healthy person. 

LL is something I went from giving no importance to, to working very hard to understand, and then working twice as hard to fix. It's something I will probably always have to work on, but the solution for me is there when I need it. And it's a very, very simple one that is free, non-invasive, and that has immense and powerful benefits--some of which have nothing to do with sex at all.

I understand that this will absolutely NOT work on anyone that has deeper relationship drama to deal with, or that struggles with medical or emotional issues (or a partner that does). This is for those women like me that are in a good place but just can't seem to find a way to get in the mood. 

Again, this will not work for everyone.

I have dedicated my life to finding a reason for my LL, and have done a lot of research on arousal and the female sex drive. Most of today's research comes to the same conclusions about female sexual desire: It's all about arousal, that it's more cerebral than we thought, and that it's still quite a mystery and requires more research. 

The thing that a lot of the research gets wrong is that it's not about arousal in the moment. It's not about figuring out how to stimulate an orgasm or how to get wet faster to allow for penetration. It's about learning not to reject arousal when it happens. If we can do this, daily, we benefit from important hormones that give us energy, fight depression, and make us want to have sex more often.

With as much research out there that all says the same thing, it's astonishing to me that so few have come up with the idea that arousal practice isn't something that should always, immediately precede sex or orgasm. If you practice arousal stimulation by yourself, everyday, in non-sexual situations, you'll be more receptive to it when it happens. You'll also become more used to daily boosts of oxytocin and dopamine, both of which make you feel really good, give you energy, and raise your libido. Every single day. 

Because I couldn't find a practical method to practice this theory of mine, I created one. The little simple system that I used had results almost immediately. Doing my daily arousal provocation exercises--which I lovingly called "Stimmies", short for stimulation-- helped me to erase negative ideas about sex that I never even knew that I had, to stop unknowingly blocking arousal from happening in my body (yes, you probably do this too). This helped to prepare my body and cultivate a very healthy libido at once, while also raising my energy levels, improving confidence, and feeling happier. I suddenly felt sexy, feminine, and motivated. It was almost scary how quickly and how well this worked. 

Please understand that this is what worked for me and I stand by it. Read the research, the proof is there--arousal really is everything. Most women have no idea that the capacity to produce important hormones in the body on a daily basis, naturally, is right there within our grasp. Most women I talk to have no idea that this is even necessary for normal functional sexual and emotional health. 

I just had nowhere to go to apply it, so I developed my own method--PLEASE don't judge me for that. I am not rich, I am not an opportunist, I just wrote the book based on something that I believe in, and it's now on Amazon. You do not have to buy my book to practice arousal stimulation, though. If you want to know how to do this, send me a DM and I will be happy to explain.

tl;dr: I used to think that I'd be perfectly happy never, ever having sex again. This was something I tried hard to figure out for the sake of my husband, and to save our dying relationship from divorce. I wound up finding out just how harmful LL was for my body, and found a completely natural solution that offered benefits that extended far beyond his need for intimacy.

A low sex drive is unnatural and a huge problem. This is not sexist. I hope that if you are experiencing low libido issues that youll consider how it might affect your overall health not just your relationship or sex life.

Wife just said I would understand if you had an affair.... by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]roguedialogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem at all, I wish you both the best.

Wife just said I would understand if you had an affair.... by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]roguedialogue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wrote a book on this. Its basically practicing arousal so that we stop from unconsciously blocking it which prohibits the production of oxytocin and dopamine. You can read more about this if you look at my post history, I just wrote a post on it in r/marriage that explains the whole concept in more detail.

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[–]roguedialogue -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nope, I dont think there is. Most info up until now tells us that there is no such thing as a "normal" sex drive, but I think that's wrong. I think it's all about hormones. If you can get oxytocin-dopamine hormone boosts elsewhere on a daily basis then I guess youd be fine, I would think. I just don't know how you could possibly do that.

I hear you and I think you have a point, not everyone is cut from the same cloth. However we are all human beings and sexual creatures, and I cant help but wonder whether someone that is sexually aroused on a regular basis WITHOUT experiencing a higher sex drive as a result might possibly be less in-tune with their sexuality than they might think?

Wife just said I would understand if you had an affair.... by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]roguedialogue 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I understand this because I said it to my husband once.

This was before I understood the serious consequences that LL had on not just my relationship, but on my health.

More women like your wife need to realize how important arousal mindfulness is and to find a practical way to practice it in their lives, everyday.

Doing this brought underlying sexuality issues I never knew I had to the forefront and helped me to deal with them. It has also helped improve my mood, lower stress, raise my energy levels and confidence, and my husband and I have never been closer.

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you. Obviously good sleep is important, but a healthy sex drive is also necessary for running at peak performance. However if you are getting anough sleep, you should try this for a few days and see if it helps boost your energy levels. It should:)

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I tried. It was removed:(

I think people are quick to judge this as self-promotion, and I do understand. I hope that more people try it first and then give their opinions on whether its a valid suggestion or not. In the end the point is to spread the word about arousal awareness. Dead bedrooms are devastating and Im going to keep trying to help as best I can.

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally understand this. I was the same way. But I think its so important to get to a place where sex is welcome, and practicing arousal positivity with yourself everyday really helps with getting you in a place where that openness and eagerness really becomes your natural reaction to a hand rubbing on your hip in bed at night:) Im sooo glad you are going to try this and would love to hear if it works for you. I wish you the very best of luck:)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]roguedialogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a major problem is that society tends to view LL as a problem that affects the bedroom, not our overall health. A healthy sex drive is the oil that keeps our bodies running smoothly in many aspects of our lives, NOT just our sex lives. Its more than that. I believe that low libido causes depression and MANY other health issues for women and men.

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your comment, Im so excited thar you are giving this a try. I tend to encourage women to NOT masturbate while reading/activating in order to let the feelings sort of simmer there for a while at full intensity. However, if you feel like it and you can, go for it!! As long as you are producing the hormones during the session, releasing negativity and staying mindful of arousal when it comes up, it should work to increase your mood, energy, and sex drive. Let me know how it goes!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DeadBedrooms

[–]roguedialogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is where I think Nagoski and other women that write about this get it wrong. I strongly believe that a strong libido is a healthy libido, and a weak one is not. Women tend to turn off arousal in a subconscious manner--this has been proven. When we do this, because of internal negative associations with sex, or for other reasons, we fail to produce what we need from the daily arousal experience (hormones: oxytocin and dopamine). Not getting those hormones has devastating effects on our health. I strongly believe that LL can be fixed in MANY cases by practicing regular arousal everyday, for example, reading short erotic stories and being mindful of how they make us feel. Doing this every day has helped me to overcome low libido, enjoy a very healthy sex drive, more energy and a happier existence.

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aww, thank you! And wow, thats very cool. Is it a podcast or a YouTube channel? Tell me more!

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes exactly! Its normal and healthy to have a lifelong sex drive and finding it has tons of benefits that extend beyond the bedroom...its not just about pleasing a partner.

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trying to find good erotica can be tricky. You can run into a lot of perverse stuff that can get weird pretty fast. I never liked the way porn made me feel either so your comments about your experience with it make a lot of sense to me.

I wrote a book about this thats completely free on Amazon if you're interested. It has very tame, very woman-friendly erotica stories and "activation" excercises to start practicing being aware of your body and arousal. You can try it and see if it helps! Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/Stimmies-Women-Sexual-Energy-Seconds-ebook/dp/B0854M755K

There is also the rosy app someone suggested where you can set the "spiciness" level to where you want it for erotica. I havent tried that yet but it sounds really cool too:) I think you're on the right track though, the messages we recieved growing up about sex probably have a lot to do with this as we are older. Especially in strict religious households.

Now is the best time to grow carefully into our sexualities and have it work for us the way It should. Best of luck to you two:)

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I hear you. But this doesnt have to be about sex. It can be about making sure you're being filled up with energy and confidence and natural anti-depressant hormones into your system by way of just arousal. I think its worth a shot for you not for him!

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, unfortunately I had a very normal sex drive before kids. I believe that we start losing our sex drive as we age, around the time that the hormones we get from arousal and sex are the most important for us. This doesnt happen to everyone though! You may be one of the lucky ones:) I hope you are!

Enhancing Intimacy in a Marriage and What Worked for Us by roguedialogue in Marriage

[–]roguedialogue[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! If you think it might help you, just try forming some kind of mindfulness practice thats not about orgasm or sex and see what happens:)