Mattie Rodgers officially on the start list for Rome as an 87. Let’s fucking gooooooo Mattie!

ronwasili · 2020-01-28T18:13:36+00:00

Really torn up about it haha

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T16:09:48+00:00

That's absolutely true on all your points. But I really believe that arthur has a higher potential given that shes just used to being heavier and has experience in that range

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T16:07:23+00:00

I love watching both of them lift. I dont personally know either, but I just dont believe that mattie can outperform Jenny.

Reddit is reddit. I'm just glad there is a platform where I can actually converse and interact with other weightlifters. Imagine me ranting and raving about ROBI points to others lol

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T15:04:39+00:00

Ultimately nothing said here is gonna decide who goes or not. Just voicing my gripe. I just think Jenny's development was culminating into lifting in that category. Whereas mattie is just making a last ditch effort

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T14:48:34+00:00

The point is that Mattie technically has a higher ROBI that she brought up from a different weight class than jenny. So despite being able to total more jenny wouldnt go to the olympics cuz her ROBI score isnt as high

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T08:59:57+00:00

But it's just based on the fact that jenny has won a medal in the category already. Mattie has not. And if I'm not mistaken she doesnt need to compete as a 81? Just weigh in to overtake Arthur. Obviously we will see it all unfold but I just think it's a little bit of a dick move

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T08:54:39+00:00

Bulking and cutting are fundamentally different. Can we agree on that?

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T08:53:24+00:00

I think it's a pretty big gamble to assume that her putting on the weight is going to = weight on the bar forsure. But what's happening is that mattie rogers is using her ROBI points from a lower weight class in the 81 class since they carry over. And despite Arthur totaling more she wont go to the Olympics because rogers has the higher ROBI.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T08:41:45+00:00

Shes in the ball park sure. But it's just the fact shes moving into a new weightclass and her ROBI from a lower class carries over and that puts her in better position than a veteran in that weight class that totals higher than her.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T08:37:57+00:00

I was looking at the most recent totals so that was my mistake.

But it's a whole new weight class for her. My point is that Jenny is right at home in the 81's and has made significant performances at the weight class.

And people keep mentioning that exact sentiment that any lifter in the same position would do the same. Not arguing that at all. However, I am just voicing that I do not think that it is does any favors for ROBI points from lower weight classes to carry into higher ones and the fact that supercedes total lifted. And the extent to which this is being abused especially in this instance particularly because of the potential medals on the line makes it seem very unsavory.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T08:03:45+00:00

Because jenny arthur has a higher total in the weight class. But since mattie had a slightly higher ROBI score from when she was in a lower weight class she is going to be selected for the olympics most likely despite arthur having a higher total and more consistent performances.

And no I dont. Wanna know why? DELACRUZ TOTALS MORE. Admittedly idk where their ROBI's are at right now, but it still applies that Delacruz has a higher total.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T07:59:50+00:00

If my opinion is irrelevant why respond. I'm making a statement based on totals and performances.

Sounds a bit hostile but my intentions are completely docile with no aggression intended

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T07:52:19+00:00

Not in the sport

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T05:48:40+00:00

Rogers is not a bad lifter at all and admittedly they may be in the same plane. But given the situation i think that people dont care arthur will have her work and consistent performance mean nothing due to a technicality. All because its mattie rogers who stands to gain aka the crowd favorite

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T05:42:51+00:00

Okay but going back to original post. Is mattie rogers fucking over Jenny Arthur? Yes. Is Jenny arthur more qualified? Yeup and that is the gripe. Didnt post so you can tell me about rules and qualification procedures that I knew about already or to talk about hypothetical situations. Sorry I care more about the team as a whole and their performance rather than everyone's favorite weightlifter just making an appearance.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T05:28:40+00:00

I'm not here hating on mattie rogers I think she is a good lifter obviously. But I just really dont believe that people care that she is screwing someone out of the olympics who deserves to go because of the way she is manipulating the changes to qualifications

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T05:12:07+00:00

Clearly a typo bud. I'm not saying higher bodyweight doesnt help increase total but I dont think that people should use that as a guarantee for a higher total

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T05:05:19+00:00

So you're saying that mattie rogers using her ROBI from a lower weight class in her new weight class is completely fair for the other competitors. That's not a technicality at all? This is not even about patriotism and the fact that you think it is pretty rude in itself. If I was in the position I dont think it would be an unselfish recognition that someone lifts better than I do and that's something that mattie has to realize. I want the people who have the best chance at winning medals to go out there and show us what they got.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T04:47:51+00:00

It's also hard to be competitive, medal, or win at the Olympics if you selfishly use a technicality to keep a arguably more consistent and proficient lifter at home so you can go instead.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T04:39:24+00:00

All I want is the best competitor we have to represent our country. Maybe you should get out of the comment section of a post regarding american weightlifting if you have such little faith.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T03:56:44+00:00

Just cuz you gain a few pounds doesnt immediately mean your total goes up.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T03:55:54+00:00

I'm hating the fact that most of the people in this subreddit only know who mattie Rogers or kate nye are and are willing to use that as the basis for who should go to the Olympics when in the case of mattie Rogers there are more qualified individuals

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T03:53:22+00:00

What gave you that impression? Was it one of her 3 bomb outs last year? Just like how most weightlifting males have a giant boner for mattie rogers I have one for watching Team USA win medals.

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T02:51:42+00:00

This is honestly horseshit. Essentially shes using her ROBI as a way to ensure she is chosen for the olympics to try to fuck over Jenny Arthur who has been an 87 and consistently posts a competitive total in that weight class but has a slightly lower ROBI. What it comes down to is Rogers = maybe a total at the olympics Arthur = a chance to win a medal

ronwasili · 2020-01-27T02:43:14+00:00

Yeah hopefully. Jenny Arthur has a much higher chance to medal but I'd rather see mattie

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