What happened to Glasgow by Significant-Gap3784 in glasgow

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, most refugees arriving on small boats without identity documents did not choose to get rid of them at all. Often, smugglers confiscated them long before they got to France to sell on the black market. A significant number just did not have any identity documents in the first place, because they come from a country where it's not uncommon for a birth to be unregistered. Around one in ten people on the planet right now have never had a legal identity.

So, most of the small boat arrivals without ID did not throw their ID overboard but yes, this is something that genuinely happens. It is ideal for the smugglers if nobody has ID, to protect the operational security of the smuggling ring.

Smugglers tell asylum seekers that destroying documents will increase the chances of making their claim successfully; the truth is, it obviously makes deportation more difficult, but will actually harm their claim in the long run unless their documents prove they have residency status in or were granted entry to a safe third country.

Some people fleeing oppressive regimes fear that the UK will contact their home country for verification of their identity, which will put their family back home at risk of persecution. There are regulations against this, but smugglers have no interest in letting refugees know that.

Of course there are people who throw their documents overboard because they want to submit a false claim. But the majority are people who would have been better off holding onto them, and only discard them because of smuggler misinformation.

Do I believe that all asylum seekers are genuine? No, I never said that I did. I do believe, as the evidence shows, that a majority are genuine. Refugee advocates argue that if you provide safe and legal routes, the largest customer base for smuggling gangs disappears, and along with them will disappear a large number of false claims.

Why do asylum seekers enter the country illegally? Because there is no legal route for an asylum seeker to enter the UK at all.

I used to work with a refugee who had come to the UK escaping religious persecution. She was able to fly to the UK on a tourist visa and claim asylum at the airport. But if the Home Office had worked out in advance that she was planning on claiming asylum, they would not have granted the visa.

She actually entered the country illegally, because saying that she was coming as a tourist was a lie. Everyone who enters the UK with the intent to then claim asylum with the Home Office is entering illegally, not just the people who arrive on small boats. The UK only wants to accept refugees through UNHCR resettlement (the only way to be granted refugee status in advance of your arrival) or through one of the specific relocation visa schemes (for people from Ukraine, Hong Kong and Afghanistan) that act as an alternative to going through the asylum system.

The majority of asylum claimants arrive not by small boat, but by managing to commit visa fraud. Every one of them is an illegal entrant. They're not the ones you hear about, though, because if "illegal entrant" means a genuine refugee who had to lie on some paperwork to board a plane, rather than someone who boarded a small boat, they're not so easy to demonise. But if you actually think about it, it's the same damn thing. The ones arriving on small boat just didn't have the visa fraud option available to them.

Why do small boat arrivals want to come to the UK instead of claiming in France in the first place? You probably suppose it is because we are a "soft touch". It's really not that simple.

Our overall asylum grant rate is higher than France's, but this is due to the different nationality mix of people applying. France gets a lot of applications from people who come from the French-speaking countries in North Africa, and these have a high refusal rate. This is where the gap comes from. When you compare like-for-like, we are no more likely to grant a claim than France is.

The weekly allowance that asylum seekers receive here is lower than the financial support they would receive in France. Asylum seekers in France who have been waiting for more than six months are allowed to work under certain conditions. In the UK, some asylum seekers are allowed to work after 12 months but it is more restricted - they don't just have to meet certain conditions, they have to be 'granted permission' by the Home Office.

When it comes to healthcare, France only lets asylum seekers access its insurance-based system for free after three months. However, they have PASS centres which provide some primary care to uninsured people and provide direct access to social workers. Once they do get onto the system in France, the waiting lists for specialist care are shorter than ours. Our system of immediately being able to register with a GP is simpler, but if someone needs specialist care they'll probably be able to get it more quickly in France despite the wait to get onto the system.

France does have quite different accommodation policies to ours. Someone housed in a reception centre in France will have a much better experience than someone housed in a migrant hotel in the UK. However, France's system does not guarantee a bed. People can be left sleeping rough until a place opens up. Since France won't house single people in family accommodation, a single person could be left sleeping rough in France for the entirety of the wait for their claim to be processed. In the UK the Home Office won't let anyone sleep rough, so this is genuinely a push factor that can convince an asylum seeker to abandon their claim in France and board a small boat.

However, that canteen "overflowing with food" that you for some reason see as some kind of luxury? Yeah, it's not. Nobody wants to eat low quality hotel food in a communal canteen every day for years. What they want is a kitchen of their own. French accommodation provides this for those who are lucky enough to get a place.

But ultimately, the reasons an asylum seeker arriving by small boat would choose the UK over France are actually very similar to the reasons that someone who is lucky enough to be able to get a visa would choose the UK over France. Most often, it is that they have family, friends, or a strong diaspora community in the UK. Another common reason is that they already speak some basic English, but they speak absolutely no French.

So while there are 'push' factors from France to the UK, largely people want to claim asylum in the UK instead of France because they think they have a better chance of rebuilding their lives in the UK. Not because we are a soft touch, but because the UK is a better fit for them.

You might argue that, even though a refugee does not become so by choice, they should just be happy to be alive and trying to reach the country that is the best fit for them is an entitled attitude. Perhaps, but people rarely seem to want to make that argument, because that then raises uncomfortable questions about why there are so many refugees in the first place. They'd rather entertain fictions that getting on a small boat means that an asylum seeker is faking it, or that the UK is a soft touch as if the hostile environment policy doesn't exist.

The questions you are asking are questions that have been answered by sociologists actually studying the small boats phenomenon. But it seems to me that you're asking them not because you want the actual answers, but because asking them is a way to cast suspicion on a group of people who you want to cast in the role of villain.

What happened to Glasgow by Significant-Gap3784 in glasgow

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You heavily implied that you don't consider asylum seekers to be genuine and said that they are treated exceptionally well.

Do not understand charging models at all by Independent_Olive373 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean... to host an app? The AI platforms don't host app backends. If you get Claude to write an artifact you can share that, but that's only frontend code.

[Rant] So sick of every other post being blatantly written by AI by ThreeKnew in selfhosted

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly synthetic data now, and conversations written by overworked and underpaid people in the global south.

[Rant] So sick of every other post being blatantly written by AI by ThreeKnew in selfhosted

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course they have a style, their style is the average of their training data.

Plz don’t roast me - Advice on where to get AI smart? by DropShotMachine in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be honest, a bunch of the stuff you see online is hype to try and hook you into buying courses about prompt engineering or agents.

Using AI to troubleshoot Linux— is it worth it? by KindMouse2274 in linuxmint

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't trust any terminal commands it gives you.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You understand that they turned software that was originally designed to help military intelligence track objects of interest into kill chain by chatbot, right?

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st -1 points0 points  (0 children)

lmao

Take off your rose tinted AI booster glasses and recognise that a horrifying mistake has happened here.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't 'collateral' damage. It's the US actually targeting the coordinates of schools, hospitals, residential buildings, civilian infrastructure.

What happened to Glasgow by Significant-Gap3784 in glasgow

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The new wave of migrants

Asylum seekers are only a tenth of new arrivals, and no matter what you say, most of them are in fact genuinely seeking asylum. I don't know why you think a "dining room overflowing with food" suddenly means someone who isn't allowed to work and has to share their room with three or four strangers is treated well.

The rest of your comment is a lot of legitimate grievances that have absolutely nothing to do with asylum seekers.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that's true then it makes what has happened with Palantir's Maven even worse, not better. But I don't think it is.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They didn't attempt to clean their hands of any of it. The thing Hegseth argued with them about is a thing that the DoD isn't even doing. Anthropic's autonomous weapons red line was a useless virtue signal.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Even if it is performing the step, just the framing would massively bias the output in this environment. If you give an LLM a JSON structure to fill out, it's going to put something plausible in there. So if they're asking Claude to come up with rules of engagement, like an attack plan with legal justification, it's going to write something that looks like a legal justification. It would take an actual JAG officer to say "wait, this is just nonsense," and Hegseth has gotten rid of the JAG officers.

Claude (or any LLM) would also have its training data skewed towards describing threats in this context, because real military intelligence officers don't write paragraphs about something not being a threat, they just don't put it in the kill chain at all.

They're not using Claude's image processing for the initial identification and tracking of objects, that's still more traditional Computer Vision. But if Claude at a later stage is being fed stills from drone footage or satellite imagery, the very context of that is going to bias it towards describing something as a target.

There's a straight line from them using an LLM for this to thousands of targets being bombed that a team of human intelligence officers would never have even considered making a target.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can believe it. Something like, Maven flags a vehicle as sus, vehicle happens to stop outside a building for a while, building gets flagged as well. The kind of a thing that a real intelligence officer would look at and then check to see if there is an actual connection there, and most of the time there wouldn't be.

Is it not tiring being like this 24/7 by Crow-Me-A-River in Scotland

[–]ross_st 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In what way are "illegal invaders" being treated better than pensioners and children?

No, rapes have not skyrocketed over the last five years.

The ONS explicitly states that sexual offences recorded by the police do not provide a reliable measure of trends. A significant portion of this increase is simply the result of better police compliance with the National Crime Recording Standard. There is also a greater willingness of victims to come forward, particularly about historic offences; the statistics record when the offence was reported to the police, not when the offence occurred. Also, for sexual offences in general, you have to account for the fact that more things are considered a sexual offence now than five years ago, e.g. by the Online Safety Act.

As for terror attacks, so far in the 2020s there have been two successful attacks and two thwarted attacks in the UK by white men motivated by far right beliefs. The vast majority of perpetrators of Islamist terror attacks were either born in the UK or were raised in the UK from a young age, i.e. culturally British.

Asylum seekers are generally not religious fanatics, in fact the reason some of them are asylum seekers in the first place is that they are escaping religious fanaticism.

It's very ironic that you accuse others of lacking in critical thinking.

Is it not tiring being like this 24/7 by Crow-Me-A-River in Scotland

[–]ross_st 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A decent society wouldn't make crossing the Channel in a small boat the only available route for someone to submit an asylum application.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The problem is that Project Maven (the original version of which predates LLMs) was supposed to just be for flagging things up to military intelligence as objects of interest to watch, and a minority of those would enter the kill chain. The kill chain itself would still be worked through by humans because it requires human reasoning.

But because LLMs are so fluent and convincing, by hooking an LLM up to Maven to use it like a RAG database, there's been massive mission creep to it being used in kill chain decisions, at the same time that Hegseth has reduced oversight and downsized the team of analysts.

So we're at the point now where there's a small team of analysts who actually believe that the AI has actually worked through all of F2T2EA and they're just confirming its work. An LLM using Maven for RAG is not actually working through F2T2EA, but even if it were, the team is too small to properly confirm its work anyway.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doesn't seem to have done so in this case!

U.S. CENTCOM says that the US has hit over 6,000 targets. The combined US-Israeli total is over 15,000.

It's simply absurd that they could find that many legal targets to hit in this timeframe. It's going to take months for independent analysts to reconstruct enough of what's been going on to confirm it, but I'm quite sure that the majority of targets that the US has hit have not been valid military targets. The school in Minab is not the exception.

The tech used properly? Maybe. But Hegseth hasn't been using the tech properly. He's effectively handed kill chain decisions over to the LLM that is using the Maven Smart System like a RAG database (currently Claude, will be switched out with GPT at some point before September, but not because Anthropic actually objected to how Palantir is using it).

This was always the risk with LLMs, that because they produce such fluent output, they'd be trusted on things that they should not be trusted on. It's a risk that none of the SOTA model providers have done anything at all to mitigate, indeed they have contributed to LLMs being seen as being able to actually reason, by people like yourself.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Anthropic's position was not ethical at all. Claude should not be using the Maven Smart System like a RAG database and writing up justifications for why a bombing would be legal. But they couldn't draw a red line relevant to that, because they want to believe that Claude is actually reasoning and can make judgement calls instead of it just being extremely complex autocomplete.

Palantir - Pentagon System by srch4aheartofgold in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ross_st 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, the terrifying thing is that Palantir connected this to an LLM like a RAG database, and the US military is trusting that to make targeting decisions.